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20130214 12:25:21 <xranby> http://www.cnx-software.com/2013/02/14/open-arm-gpu-drivers-fosdem-2013-video-and-call-to-arm-management/ greap post listing all recent ARM GPU driver reverse engineering + video from FOSDEM 2013 of libv's talk
20130214 13:22:25 <xranby> http://marcin.juszkiewicz.com.pl/2013/02/14/how-to-install-ubuntu-13-04-on-chromebook/
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20130214 14:51:16 <xranby> http://labb.zafena.se/?p=754 - Valentine news update, v3 is the new <3, #OpenGL ES 2/3 drivers and #OpenCL #ARM special
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20130214 15:30:07 <sgothel> good morning - fix the weirdo OSX leak - http://jogamp.org/git/?p=jogl.git;a=commit;h=f6e6fab2a7ddfb5c9b614cb072c27ff697629161
20130214 15:32:11 <xranby> sgothel: thank you, good work
20130214 15:32:36 <xranby> i got an old ppc mac os x machine will it run jogamp?
20130214 15:32:54 <sgothel> if it has java 1.6 .. but I doubt there is one
20130214 15:33:04 <sgothel> we had a discussion about it .. hmm
20130214 15:33:17 <xranby> it got a g4 cpu
20130214 15:33:24 <xranby> and 756mb of ram
20130214 15:33:28 <sgothel> OSX 10.5 is the minimum I guess
20130214 15:34:03 <sgothel> there was one OSX 10.5.4 (?) java6 release I guess .. but dunno if it's for ppc
20130214 15:34:26 <sgothel> so Wade will see whether we get drivers
20130214 15:34:44 <xranby> yea, this machine feels soo slow in todays terms that i cant even surf into google mail using it
20130214 15:35:04 <xranby> state of the art from 2001
20130214 15:35:33 <xranby> the ac100 is snappy in comparison using only 512mb of ram
20130214 15:35:58 <xranby> kudos to Wade
20130214 15:36:10 <xranby> can he do that? :)
20130214 15:37:05 <sgothel> well .. he will try (Android, Chrome, Linux) .. AFAIK Linux drivers are avail.
20130214 15:39:59 <sgothel> the movie 'Searching SugarMan' .. was very nice, romantic inspiration by blue collar hard work, staying true to yourself, while expressing all of that in music - sweet
20130214 15:40:28 <sgothel> well .. somehow, we do the dirty work as well, blue collar productions :)
20130214 15:41:09 <sgothel> hence .. we need to get glitches done before we jump on other visions (JOAL, JOGL, JOCL, ..) :)
20130214 15:41:40 <sgothel> thx for recommending it
20130214 15:43:33 <sgothel> .. if you like to express all the covert/proxy wars .. just see "Charlie Wilson's War" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Wilson%27s_War .. quite depressing .. but actually also described very well what just happened in Libya etc ..
20130214 15:45:19 <sgothel> ".. and then we fucked up the endgame. ", Charlie Wilson
20130214 15:52:21 <xranby> sgothel: i am happy you took the advice and watched
20130214 15:52:45 <xranby> i was stunned whan an impact one record can make to liberate a nation
20130214 15:53:06 <xranby> i wonder what would be apropriate to send into north korea?
20130214 15:53:15 <sgothel> .. and I loved that he stayed true to his world
20130214 15:53:47 <sgothel> i.e. untouchable .. no corruption, just true
20130214 15:54:11 <sgothel> the daughter almost cried .. when talking about it :)
20130214 15:55:05 <sgothel> yes .. impact of visions / inspirations can be huge .. a medium, a wave to catalyst your feelings and opinion
20130214 15:55:26 <sgothel> it must not be guns and crazy action all the time .. :)
20130214 15:56:03 <xranby> true and he shows its true
20130214 15:57:10 <sgothel> assume a world where they sing and love instead of suicide bombing and swapping governments by proxy wars to get influence, power and resources .. quite a naive but lovely thought
20130214 15:57:55 <xranby> world peace starts with peace inside the human mind
20130214 15:58:26 <sgothel> but then again .. wouldn't you kill your neighbor .. before you and your family would get killed (Survival of the fittest) ? So .. how can we create such an environment where all this will never again, force us to become that _low_
20130214 15:59:04 <sgothel> Would be awesome to solve the energy problem once and for all - IMHO, then food supply is solved etc etc
20130214 15:59:31 <sgothel> A 'Star Trek Society' w/o the need of WW3 .. hehe :)
20130214 16:12:08 <xranby> Tweet of the day
20130214 16:12:10 <xranby> @toupsz #NASA #WorldWind now uses JOGL 2.0. Awesome!
20130214 16:12:54 <xranby> http://worldwind.arc.nasa.gov/java/
20130214 16:13:10 <xranby> http://builds.worldwind.arc.nasa.gov/download-release-daily.asp
20130214 16:15:10 <sgothel> so they do use GL2ES2 now ?
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20130214 16:15:30 <sgothel> git repository ?
20130214 16:16:15 <xranby> http://worldwind31.arc.nasa.gov/svn/
20130214 16:16:40 <hharrison> nice
20130214 16:17:38 <sgothel> lol .. still ole damn SVN
20130214 16:17:59 <xranby> http://worldwind31.arc.nasa.gov/svn/trunk/WorldWind/
20130214 16:18:06 <xranby> yeah binarys inside the repo
20130214 16:18:15 <sgothel> ok .. have a few regressions now w/ OSX/CALayer .. since they surface now due to actually releasing the resources :)
20130214 16:18:19 <xranby> good its the jogl-all.jar
20130214 16:18:50 <xranby> This is build version 2.0-b66-20121101, based on: branch rc commit 502847f59ef01c78a85e4ee5453a09d9b83d9a5e
20130214 16:19:03 <sgothel> oh well ..
20130214 16:19:13 <hharrison> I'm getting close to a Java3D release with August's OSX/Java7 fixes...any chance we'll have a -rc12 soon I can point testers at?
20130214 16:19:43 <sgothel> will make an aggregate build .. when I am confident w/ OSX .. probably today/tomorrow
20130214 16:19:43 <hharrison> Particularly one with the resource leaks closed up ;-)
20130214 16:20:16 <hharrison> My timeframe is more like a week, so anytime before then would be perfect for me
20130214 16:21:09 <sgothel> Discussion: AWT GLCanvas .destroy() method
20130214 16:21:22 <sgothel> right now it calls removeNotify()
20130214 16:21:34 <sgothel> however .. this should not be done, i.e. only by AWT itself
20130214 16:22:07 <sgothel> I changed it here (stash) to only release our stuff (JAWTWindow, GLDrawable, GLContext) .. but leaves the AWT component untouched
20130214 16:22:10 <sgothel> makes sense ?
20130214 16:22:15 <hharrison> Yes please!
20130214 16:22:41 <sgothel> any semantics for 'recreation' needs after calling glc.destroy() ?
20130214 16:23:12 <sgothel> right now .. this is not forseen :)
20130214 16:23:20 <sgothel> and I guess not required
20130214 16:23:29 <hharrison> Other than 'new GLCanvas()'
20130214 16:24:04 <sgothel> we do lazy init .. i.e. display/paint or resize may do the initialization, which will be destroyed w/ destroy()/removeNotify()
20130214 16:24:27 <sgothel> the latter (removeNotify()) also cleans up other resources, i.e. AWT device instance
20130214 16:25:05 <hharrison> Thinking of other AWT stuff, it pretty much always leave it up to the user to explicitly clean it up
20130214 16:56:03 <ebrayet1> @sgoethel Hi Sven. Before you make the aggregate build, could you please check the pull requests for bugs 677 and 668 ?
20130214 16:56:51 <ebrayet1> s/sgoethel/sgothel/
20130214 16:56:57 <ebrayet1> (sorry)
20130214 17:14:15 <sgothel> sgoethel == sgothel .. all good :)
20130214 17:14:48 <sgothel> I will check your pull req. after the OSX odysee .. and ofc will create another aggregated build, no problem
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20130214 17:43:08 <sgothel> @Mark: There is some problem w/ POM ? http://forum.jogamp.org/Library-issues-with-32Bit-JVM-on-64Bit-OS-tp4027978p4027995.html
20130214 17:43:43 <sgothel> or @All: .. seems to be related to !POM as well .. hmm, not time to digg into this now
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20130214 18:06:25 * rmk0 eyes it
20130214 18:23:09 <rmk0> replied
20130214 18:23:26 <rmk0> no idea why their maven wouldn't resolve dependencies... that's ...
20130214 18:23:40 <rmk0> would take significant effort to *stop* maven pulling in dependencies
20130214 18:24:39 <sgothel> thx .. yeah, dunno why they don't have the native jar files .. the other user as well w/o mvn
20130214 18:25:03 <sgothel> hope it's not snail oil related (virus scanner)
20130214 18:25:12 <sgothel> *snake oil* :)
20130214 18:25:23 <rmk0> snail oil sounds pretty bad
20130214 18:26:12 <rmk0> i'm hoping they're both using the same broken version of something or other, or doing something horribly wrong
20130214 19:19:29 <sgothel> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/02/13/oracle_android_copyright_appeal/ <- Oracle gets emotional cont. to bring down any future Java success, if this goes well for 'em - all public API specs are threatened .. oh dear, now it's a poem where I though it's more like math :)
20130214 19:19:46 <sgothel> interesting though, they don't go for patents
20130214 19:24:24 <sgothel> "In the brief filed on Monday, Oracle further argues that Google's use of the Java code violates the terms of the various licenses under which Oracle offers the code – of which there are three. But all three licenses depend on copyright to give them weight. If the specific material that Google used was not protected by copyright, as Judge Alsup ruled, then the licenses carry no validity."
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20130214 19:27:17 <sgothel> Hmm .. so when Oracle really loose this one - this would imply all Java licenses are invalid .. thank you Oracle! :)
20130214 19:27:46 <rmk0> \o/
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20130214 20:02:55 <sgothel> dinner - laters
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20130214 21:36:50 <juank_prada> I guys, when I create a Frame that contains a NewtCanvasAWT of a specific size, if set Frame to be undecorated, i get the size of the NewtCanvasAWT, but if is decorated, the canvas will have some parts hidden under the window manager borders and titlebar
20130214 21:36:56 <juank_prada> how can i fix that?
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20130214 22:23:32 <sgothel> @juank: it's more like the NewtCanvasAWT component gets resized ..
20130214 22:23:44 <sgothel> you probably have set the size of the AWT Frame ?
20130214 22:24:40 <sgothel> the other way around is to set the min and preferred size of the component, then a frame.pack() after adding the NewtCanvasAWT component will make it so .. (size of component will determine frame size, not vice versa)
20130214 22:25:15 <sgothel> or - is it really as you said ? if so - OSX ? Java7 ? CALayer ?
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20130215 02:19:41 <juank_prada> hi guys do any of you know how to use apache Ivy with JOGL? im able to retrieve some of the dependencies but not all of them from the maven repo
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