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20130415 13:17:49 <sgothel> thx Xerxes - commit 6894a534b40b870fa7c237cc307a359866707db5 looks great
20130415 13:18:48 <xranby> of course needs some refactoring in the future :)
20130415 13:19:04 <sgothel> why is that ?
20130415 13:20:00 <sgothel> oh .. maybe a method for safe pts eval etc ? sure
20130415 13:21:39 <xranby> yes, we need to redo the same thing when adding audio
20130415 13:24:55 <sgothel> hmm .. don't really know how we should sync a/v yet. sure .. something might be required, if ffffffmpeg doesn't do it internally :)
20130415 13:25:21 <sgothel> other than that, I simply thought to pick the audio packages and dump it .. (JOAL)
20130415 13:25:42 <sgothel> but pls pls pls .. don't let me stop you from doing so .. gogogo :)
20130415 13:26:28 <sgothel> hmm .. we can make JOAL a dependency for the libav package impl. would be OK w/ me!
20130415 13:31:42 <xranby> sgothel: do you plan to break out av and graph from jogl into its own tree?
20130415 13:32:20 <sgothel> nope, I see it as an impl. of TextureSequence .. i.e. an essential data provider - but ofc, I can be beaten in discussions :)
20130415 13:32:21 <xranby> sgothel: i guess most users who never debug would not mind having the trace and debug gl libs in a separte jar
20130415 13:32:36 <xranby> gl classes i mean
20130415 13:32:49 <sgothel> I thought about this as well .. but then, we use it via debug properties, and this is a huge benefit
20130415 13:33:09 <sgothel> i.e. -Djogl.debug.DebugGL will enable the debug pipeline _plus_ GL debug context if available
20130415 13:33:23 <sgothel> this way, you can let a user produce a great bug report for a shipped product
20130415 13:33:34 <sgothel> I know, the debug GL stuff is not light
20130415 13:33:58 <sgothel> me more willing to cut out the fonts to reduce footprint :)
20130415 13:34:38 <sgothel> soon we will see weather we shall use GL4bcImpl for ES3 .. or an own GLES3Impl
20130415 13:34:52 <sgothel> (the latter for both ES2 and ES3)
20130415 13:35:09 <sgothel> I guess the latter . since it's smaller
20130415 13:35:39 <sgothel> DEBUG .. I really think it's one of our magic, allowing you to enable those stuff at runtime
20130415 13:36:01 <sgothel> it saved lots of my nerves pretty much often .. in bigger applications/demos
20130415 13:36:52 <sgothel> feedback? Or me too .. err .. dictator like ? :)
20130415 13:37:07 <sgothel> *bad dictator* like ? :)
20130415 13:37:31 <sgothel> btw .. great weather here.. ~18+C .. sun, birds .. SPRING AGAIN :)
20130415 13:37:45 <sgothel> started gardening .. AWESOME
20130415 13:38:14 <xranby> teched my daughter how to ride a bicycle yesterday... i agree spring is awesome
20130415 13:38:51 <sgothel> with those helper wheels ? or straight and direct ? :)
20130415 13:39:33 <sgothel> ha, my mother lifted those helper wheels all the time, in the end she showed me .. "see, you already don't use them anymore" :)
20130415 13:40:19 <xranby> we practised without helper wheels
20130415 13:40:35 <sgothel> wow
20130415 13:40:46 <sgothel> brave child
20130415 13:41:00 <xranby> the key was to inform that the bicycle remains stable if you roll after initial paddle
20130415 13:41:08 <sgothel> hahaha
20130415 13:41:19 <sgothel> you know they are still discussing this theory :)
20130415 13:41:32 <sgothel> one I read was like, you don't need to pedal at all :)
20130415 13:41:49 <sgothel> .. but it might help :)
20130415 13:42:21 <sgothel> fear ? why fear when we have physics ? :)
20130415 13:42:45 <xranby> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xjxg1Y7q8w you mean like this one?
20130415 13:43:39 <xranby> or http://mikeeisenhart.blogspot.se/2012/05/78-i-love-smell-of-neoprene-in-mornin.html
20130415 13:43:50 <sgothel> funny :) - nope, was more like pointing to the fact that actual balance on bike is about the balance itself
20130415 13:43:59 <sgothel> -> ears
20130415 13:45:51 <sgothel> I guess I am done w/ "too much sports", as I did until .. 1996 or so - but gardening is nice. My last wetsuite experience was .. tight :)
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20130415 19:19:42 <sgothel> end of month I get a few cups & t-shirts from cafeepress .. checking the quality
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