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20130428 20:31:37 <xranby_ac100> good evening
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20130428 21:03:26 <xranby_ac100> void256: welcome
20130428 21:04:11 <void256> hi :)
20130428 21:08:01 <xranby_ac100> void256: cheers for nifty gui
20130428 21:08:39 <void256> thanks but really? some people hate me for it :D
20130428 21:09:17 <xranby_ac100> void256: gouessej demoed it last summer at the jogamp bof at siggraph
20130428 21:09:24 <void256> O_O
20130428 21:09:35 <void256> any pictures available? :D
20130428 21:09:47 <xranby_ac100> yes we made a movie ;)
20130428 21:09:51 <void256> OMG
20130428 21:13:10 <xranby_ac100> void256: teaser http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mBi7psP7VM
20130428 21:14:07 <xranby_ac100> shown at 3:30 into the teaser let me dig up the section during the full session
20130428 21:16:05 <xranby_ac100> void256: http://youtu.be/gYoj2s18GxU?t=7m45s here it is
20130428 21:19:10 <void256> : D
20130428 21:19:18 <void256> how awesome is that
20130428 21:19:30 <void256> you just made my day that mucht better :D
20130428 21:19:39 <void256> thanks a lot :')
20130428 21:19:44 <xranby_ac100> awesome
20130428 21:20:16 <xranby_ac100> personally i am quite happy hacking on the JOGL FFMPEGMediaPlayer backend
20130428 21:23:42 <void256> nice
20130428 21:24:11 <xranby_ac100> void256: i am happy for GUI toolkits that can get hardware accelerated all using free software . GUI toolkits like yours make embedded hardware such as the raspberry pi accessible especially where legacy CPU driven solutions dont cut it
20130428 21:25:16 <xranby_ac100> i have heard good things about using nifty gui inside jmonkeyengine applications
20130428 21:26:55 <void256> yes, its not all bad. it was not ready for jme at the time it was introduced as their "standard" gui system so people were kinda disappointed. it has improved in time especially in regards to documentation
20130428 21:28:35 <void256> and there is a new batched renderer (not yet for jogl but shouldn't be too hard to add) which will improve rendering performance
20130428 21:30:24 <void256> but besides that I kinda hit a dead end in the way it renders everything each frame regarding performance. so at the moment I'm kinda rewritting in from scratch for 2.0 :) not rendering things that don't have changed might be a great idea for embedded devices too :D but it will take all of 2013 I think
20130428 21:34:39 <xranby_ac100> void256: how are your plans to get nifty gui accessible for designers? usually adaption by game studios depend if the designers can use it through a tooling toolkit
20130428 21:35:23 <xranby_ac100> void256: all depend what kind of users you want of course
20130428 21:36:18 <void256> there is a nifty gui editor project in the works by someone from italy which looks promising
20130428 21:37:03 <void256> I had plans to create a nifty Nifty editor using Nifty that would work much like a in-game level editor for games ^^
20130428 21:37:10 <void256> but I never got around to really do it
20130428 21:37:21 <xranby_ac100> void256: all in all sounds Nifty :D
20130428 21:37:57 <void256> according to plans, the plan is to make some awesome new Nifty 2.0 first and everything else afterwards ;)
20130428 21:38:11 <xranby_ac100> good plan
20130428 21:39:48 * odin_ (~Odin@anon) Quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
20130428 21:40:59 <xranby_ac100> void256: the work item list left before the JogAmp JOGL release 2.0.2 is making healthy progress
20130428 21:41:22 <xranby_ac100> void256: there is new maven release candidates that you may use with nifty
20130428 21:41:56 <void256> woo hoo!
20130428 21:42:01 <xranby_ac100> void256: there is some api changes like how we use mousewheel and keyboard input
20130428 21:42:06 <void256> you see, that's why I'm lurking around in here ;)
20130428 21:42:54 <void256> well, I need to add jogl support for the new batched renderer
20130428 21:42:56 <xranby_ac100> not sure if it is pushed to the maven central, but you can use it by adding the jogamp maven repository to your pom.xml
20130428 21:43:50 <void256> <url>http://maven.iscpif.fr/thirdparty/</url>
20130428 21:43:57 <void256> that one?
20130428 21:44:36 <xranby_ac100> no, i will look it up for you
20130428 21:44:55 <xranby_ac100> the last progress update is here http://forum.jogamp.org/Re-Our-Road-to-2-0-2-Update-3-tp4029026.html
20130428 21:47:38 <xranby_ac100> the maven repository is here: http://jogamp.org/deployment/maven/org/jogamp/jogl/jogl-all-main/
20130428 21:48:25 <xranby_ac100> example how i updated the pom.xml for the jogl jake2 port to use it is here: https://github.com/xranby/jake2/commits
20130428 21:49:00 <xranby_ac100> https://github.com/xranby/jake2/commit/42d4ea1fa8119cb7942a8c084f4027b4ba4c9b9c
20130428 21:49:28 <xranby_ac100> void256: i hope this help :)
20130428 21:49:31 <void256> nice, thanks! where do I need to look for new releases? Especially the maven artifact version, where do one learn about new releases in general?
20130428 21:51:00 <xranby_ac100> void256: the forum is a good start, this irc channel and the wiki..
20130428 21:51:43 <xranby_ac100> void256: this list is also a good indicator http://jogamp.org/deployment/archive/master/?C=M;O=D
20130428 21:52:07 <xranby_ac100> all aggregate builds are potential release candidates
20130428 21:52:21 <xranby_ac100> the signed builds is the rc's
20130428 21:53:14 <xranby_ac100> void256: sgothel usually publish a maven build after generating a signed rc
20130428 21:53:52 <void256> maybe I'll just look here:
20130428 21:53:53 <void256> http://jogamp.org/deployment/maven/org/jogamp/jogl/jogl-all-main/
20130428 21:53:54 <void256> ?
20130428 21:53:56 <void256> :)
20130428 21:54:01 <xranby_ac100> yup
20130428 21:54:17 <xranby_ac100> that will suffice
20130428 21:54:35 <void256> nice. I'll take a look at it now - watch out :>
20130428 21:54:51 <void256> can I share that video on my blog and on twitter btw? :)
20130428 21:55:35 <xranby_ac100> of course!
20130428 21:55:52 <xranby_ac100> of you sort it by date then it becomes more human friendly http://jogamp.org/deployment/maven/org/jogamp/jogl/jogl-all-main/?C=M;O=D
20130428 21:56:09 <void256> yes :)
20130428 21:57:40 <xranby_ac100> void256: http://forum.jogamp.org/Re-Our-Road-to-2-0-2-Update-3-tp4029026.html the last update announcement is of course also important
20130428 21:58:52 <xranby_ac100> and if you want a hint when 2.0.2 gets released then look at https://jogamp.org/wiki/index.php/SW_Tracking_Report_Objectives_for_the_release_2.0.2_of_JOGL
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20130428 22:09:07 <void256> hmm
20130428 22:09:18 <void256> how do I "read" that last link?
20130428 22:09:24 <void256> looks like a bug tracker? o_O
20130428 22:10:07 <xranby_ac100> it is a list of all open bugs that we intend to have fixed before the release
20130428 22:10:08 <void256> I mean "read" in a sense to find out about the 2.0.2 release
20130428 22:10:23 <void256> ah, ok
20130428 22:51:25 <xranby_ac100> good night
20130428 22:57:53 <sgothel> good evening .. Hi 'voidFF', official Maven HowTo: https://jogamp.org/wiki/index.php/Setting_up_a_JogAmp_project_in_your_favorite_IDE#Maven
20130428 22:58:17 <sgothel> Q: Will you support GL2ES2, i.e. an ES2 renderer ?
20130428 22:58:24 <sgothel> (w/ your nifty UI)
20130428 22:59:07 <sgothel> good night Xerxes: Note: The Java OO part of monitor support is fine, now testing native XRandR13, .. Windows and OSX :)
20130428 23:01:10 <sgothel> "Feel free to join the now ongoing forum and IRC discussion on how to implement a threaded low overhead 0-copy frame caching system with proper sync for audio and video to be used by the updated FFMPEGMediaPlayer back-end. " lol - our PR man :) excitement - great.
20130428 23:01:45 <sgothel> yeah .. will be more active cleaning up after the multi-monitor support
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20130428 23:15:57 <void256> sorry, I was busy in #niftygui ;)
20130428 23:16:13 <void256> thanks for the link and the presentation ^^
20130428 23:17:11 <void256> ES2 - I think even the batched renderer should work on ES2. should therefore be possible, yeah
20130428 23:18:34 <sgothel> nice
20130428 23:19:07 <sgothel> sure .. if you have something to show on SIGGRAPH this year w/ JOGL .. pls prepare etc ..
20130428 23:19:17 <void256> xD
20130428 23:19:22 <void256> I'd love to
20130428 23:19:28 <sgothel> https://jogamp.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=661
20130428 23:19:36 <void256> but I guess 2.0 won't be anywhere near ready :/
20130428 23:19:38 <sgothel> slides etc .. all online .. you may add yours
20130428 23:19:57 <sgothel> doesn't matter - versions I mean, but 'output' does
20130428 23:19:57 <void256> you could show the batched renderer maybe
20130428 23:20:10 <void256> which makes quite a nice speed boost
20130428 23:20:12 <sgothel> can you come as well ?
20130428 23:20:41 <sgothel> demos w/ ES2 on Android / mobile etc ?
20130428 23:21:23 <sgothel> if not, we can present your slides ofc, put in your name on your slides .. and you tell us how and what to show
20130428 23:21:31 <void256> BREMEN, Germany to LAX, US for 1294.45 EUR per person
20130428 23:21:35 <sgothel> but .. always better to do it yourself ofc
20130428 23:21:36 <void256> >_<
20130428 23:21:45 <void256> I don't think I can come
20130428 23:22:12 <sgothel> financial wise ?
20130428 23:22:19 <void256> mostly time wise
20130428 23:22:47 <void256> but I could actually prepare some slides
20130428 23:22:54 <sgothel> sadly thats most of our folks problem to show up, Dominik (demo..) has no time either
20130428 23:22:59 <sgothel> that would be awesome
20130428 23:23:02 <void256> the batched renderer speed optimisation is kinda interessting
20130428 23:23:05 <sgothel> you live in Germany ?
20130428 23:23:11 <void256> yes I do
20130428 23:23:19 <sgothel> guten morgen dann :)
20130428 23:23:26 <void256> hah
20130428 23:23:31 <void256> du auch?
20130428 23:23:38 <sgothel> Bremerhaven, yes
20130428 23:23:48 <void256> nice! I always thpught you were french ^^
20130428 23:24:08 <sgothel> how come ? do I sound so cultured or emotional ? :)
20130428 23:24:17 <sgothel> 'read' :)
20130428 23:25:09 <sgothel> have you looked at our ole effort to do the curve rendering via GPU ?
20130428 23:25:10 <void256> nee, ich glaube ich hab dich nur mit gouessej verwechselt ^^
20130428 23:25:28 <sgothel> that probably might be .. even though - not really
20130428 23:25:59 <void256> ;)
20130428 23:26:00 <sgothel> he has curly hair, me the tall one .. hmm getting fatty and bald :)
20130428 23:26:00 <void256> sorry ^^
20130428 23:26:55 <void256> hehe
20130428 23:27:03 <void256> soon I'll be bald too
20130428 23:27:04 <void256> :/
20130428 23:27:10 <sgothel> GPU curve rendering w/ nifty ?
20130428 23:27:25 <void256> nein, hab ich nicht gesehen
20130428 23:27:36 <void256> I want curve rendering for 2.0 ^^
20130428 23:27:49 <void256> since there will be a canvas :)
20130428 23:28:03 <sgothel> our font / curve GPU renderer
20130428 23:28:11 <void256> I've seen the font renderer
20130428 23:28:22 <void256> actually I've played around with it
20130428 23:28:24 <sgothel> needs more love -> time, .. uh
20130428 23:28:43 <void256> it's always the same ... a shame
20130428 23:29:05 <sgothel> right, many things come up .. etc, but at ;east you still have something to do - goals, always :)
20130428 23:29:34 <void256> lots of goals and too less time ;)
20130428 23:30:30 <void256> I've blogged about the batched renderer stuff in lots of details I'm sure I can convert the blog to some slides with some key points
20130428 23:31:00 <sgothel> http://matthiasmann.de/ so thats you ?
20130428 23:31:08 <void256> good lord no
20130428 23:31:10 <void256> xD
20130428 23:31:21 <void256> matthias hates me :)
20130428 23:31:29 <void256> he really does! ^^
20130428 23:31:38 <sgothel> now you tell me who the french is :)
20130428 23:31:54 <sgothel> I don't understand the 'hate' thing .. but well
20130428 23:32:26 <void256> he got very angry when I forked his BSD-licensed png loader and never got around to add animation support to it as I planned to unfortunatly
20130428 23:33:18 <sgothel> using someones code is like a gratification .. being honored IMHO
20130428 23:34:32 <sgothel> I decided to use PNGJ .. and Hernandez liked it, sure
20130428 23:35:03 <sgothel> converted java-script JPEG decoder .. they like that as well, all good - and our stuff is to be used as well, ofc
20130428 23:35:04 <void256> http://echelog.com/logs/browse/lwjgl/1293836400
20130428 23:35:13 <void256> read up [04:22:52]
20130428 23:35:15 <void256> ;)
20130428 23:36:26 <sgothel> well, if folks don't understand the license they used for their code .. then nothing can help 'em
20130428 23:36:48 <void256> he's smart and stuff but sometimes acting strange so well, nevermind
20130428 23:37:00 <sgothel> a good advise would be to read the 4 freedoms of software FSF .. especially 'you shall not need to ask .. '
20130428 23:37:04 <void256> your link just reminded me of him ... THNAKS ;)
20130428 23:37:25 <sgothel> however, I always send an email to authors to send them my 'thank you' .. sure
20130428 23:37:41 <void256> we talked before. so he knows what I was up to
20130428 23:38:06 <sgothel> and if it's BSD .. you don't need anybodies blessing .. etc -> freedom. IMHO very important
20130428 23:38:07 <void256> since at that time I was a regular visitor at #lwjgl
20130428 23:38:18 <void256> yeah
20130428 23:38:30 <sgothel> but well, we all have our moments :)
20130428 23:38:34 <sgothel> just humans
20130428 23:38:37 <void256> of course ;)
20130428 23:38:55 <void256> but I try not to call people "asshole" online a lot tho ^^
20130428 23:39:11 <sgothel> a good start for collaboration, sure :)
20130428 23:39:15 <void256> hehe
20130428 23:39:22 <sgothel> http://nifty-gui.lessvoid.com/about .. so you prefer to be anonymous ?
20130428 23:39:45 <rmk0> ran into a lot of nasty license issues working with ada
20130428 23:40:08 <rmk0> people would write bindings to C libraries, and then distribute them with a far more restrictive license than the original library
20130428 23:40:21 <rmk0> would often see BSD licensed libraries with GPL(!) licensed bindings
20130428 23:40:23 <sgothel> exactly - hence we need our code to not be anonymous and trackable, so we are able to defend ourselves from claims
20130428 23:40:26 <rmk0> obnoxious stuff
20130428 23:40:55 <sgothel> I had long audits w/ Siemens and Eclipse .. and discussed the authorship .. etc w/ 'em
20130428 23:41:23 <sgothel> so it's good (they say) .. to know who did what piece, so if a company claims it theirs - we can remove it .. discuss it
20130428 23:41:52 <sgothel> BSD/GPL, yes .. started BSD .. now I guess we have to stick w/ it
20130428 23:42:22 <void256> JOGL is GPL?
20130428 23:42:23 <sgothel> I don't care that much .. but my legal other half has to check ofc.. don't want lawyers to crush us
20130428 23:42:26 <void256> o_O
20130428 23:42:28 <sgothel> nope BSD ..
20130428 23:42:31 <void256> ok
20130428 23:42:55 <sgothel> we have quite a long LICENSE.txt file in all modules
20130428 23:43:24 <sgothel> already removed some questionable stuff last year .. so good now
20130428 23:43:38 <rmk0> codebase is completely clean now?
20130428 23:43:42 <rmk0> i mean... as far as we know?
20130428 23:43:55 <sgothel> Siemens: Yes
20130428 23:44:01 <rmk0> \o/
20130428 23:44:06 <sgothel> Eclipse: 80% .. then lawyer left company :)
20130428 23:44:19 <rmk0> he couldn't take the pressure
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20130428 23:44:34 <rmk0> neither could he!
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20130428 23:44:55 <sgothel> she probably left for a better job - and good morning Mark
20130428 23:45:02 <rmk0> 'lo
20130428 23:45:07 <rmk0> even if it is bit late for morning
20130428 23:45:15 <sgothel> yeah
20130428 23:45:35 <void256> crap, firefox died and took chatzilla with it :>
20130428 23:45:39 <sgothel> so it was all about the little files .. you have seen my timing report on local maven deployment ?
20130428 23:45:56 <sgothel> AFAIK it was ~2 min on jogamp .. so all clear
20130428 23:46:00 <rmk0> nice
20130428 23:46:17 <sgothel> user jogl has a no passphrase gpg ..
20130428 23:47:53 <sgothel> 'voidFF' .. Mark does lots of stuff, well .. I like his graph math in his repos .. and we think to do something (maybe, time, ..) .. you know .. little graph thingy ..
20130428 23:48:03 <sgothel> io7m.[com|org] ?
20130428 23:48:17 <sgothel> http://fossil.io7m.com/repo.cgi/io7m-jspatial/index
20130428 23:48:19 <void256> what kind of little graph thing?
20130428 23:48:19 <sgothel> for example
20130428 23:49:09 <rmk0> i've always got about eight projects going
20130428 23:49:11 <sgothel> he has nice libs for culling and stuff .. also a wrapper solution to abstract jogl|lwjgl .. (well, not that I like the idea of shifting the vendor lock to io7m :)
20130428 23:49:12 <void256> make an octreeviewer with a nifty gui instead of swing?
20130428 23:49:59 <sgothel> voidFF .. if you can disclose your name .. maybe we can all do something together one day ?
20130428 23:50:19 <void256> does that depend on my name? =)
20130428 23:50:19 <sgothel> you are running your company ? employed ?
20130428 23:50:23 <void256> http://careers.stackoverflow.com/cv/edit/171054
20130428 23:50:27 <void256> there is my real name
20130428 23:50:35 <void256> I'm employed at a company
20130428 23:50:39 <sgothel> yes sure - 1) not working w/ no-name, but real people 2) license
20130428 23:50:46 <void256> doing none graphics related stuff (mostly)
20130428 23:50:51 <sgothel> ah .. and you are allowed to work on your stuff ?
20130428 23:50:56 <void256> YES :)
20130428 23:51:12 <void256> nebenberuflich freiberuflich
20130428 23:51:13 <sgothel> sounds great
20130428 23:51:29 <void256> worked at two projects already for Nifty
20130428 23:51:33 <sgothel> just asking .. you know, some companies do have this 'all your thoughts are ours' contracts
20130428 23:51:37 <void256> which was exciting :D
20130428 23:51:45 <sgothel> yup .. I believe so :)
20130428 23:52:00 <void256> I have written permission to work on Nifty besides my day job so thats ok
20130428 23:52:04 <void256> :)
20130428 23:52:15 <sgothel> I have the luxury and burden to be fulltime the jogamp janitor .. well
20130428 23:52:18 <void256> *to work for Nifty AND getting paid was what I meant ;)
20130428 23:52:27 <void256> o_O
20130428 23:52:34 <void256> but thats awesome? not? =)
20130428 23:52:44 <sgothel> German contracts are ofc different, US is the other way around (-> slave)
20130428 23:53:02 <sgothel> sure .. just my wife nags sometimes when doing like 18hrs/day :)
20130428 23:53:18 <void256> urgs
20130428 23:53:37 <void256> and who pays you?
20130428 23:53:39 <sgothel> ah guess its more like 12/d avrg
20130428 23:53:41 <void256> donations? o_O
20130428 23:54:15 <sgothel> long term CCT (website, sponsor) and other customers asking for a 'quick fix'
20130428 23:54:30 <sgothel> some just don't like to be public
20130428 23:54:40 <sgothel> and personal emails are being charged
20130428 23:55:01 <void256> sounds great tho
20130428 23:55:05 <sgothel> so 'software as a service' does work somewhat .. sure, always need more legs on the ground
20130428 23:55:10 <void256> I whish I could work fulltime on Nifty ^^
20130428 23:55:18 <void256> aye
20130428 23:55:22 <sgothel> no freaking job security - but who has that these days anyway?
20130428 23:55:29 <void256> aye
20130428 23:56:10 <sgothel> also need more payees .. so can build up a budget for other folks, to be more ..
20130428 23:56:44 <sgothel> @Mark, et.al: So Qun (my wife) will be done w/ PhD this year hopefully, then we will try to do the paperwork for EU funding
20130428 23:56:54 <sgothel> dunno .. Sylvestor has some insights ..
20130428 23:57:26 <sgothel> Sylvestro (debian/Scitech?)
20130428 23:57:27 <rmk0> hm!
20130428 23:57:38 <sgothel> CCT didn't reply on my request yet .. uh
20130428 23:57:46 <sgothel> (budget, you .. etc)
20130428 23:58:15 <sgothel> so Sylvestro told me, that a company may ask for funding, to double yearly gross income
20130428 23:58:30 <sgothel> but - lots of paperwork and .. you know, buddy system :(
20130428 23:59:02 <sgothel> I am not so good at this, so I hope Qun will do that end of this year.
20130428 23:59:34 <sgothel> vision would be to have a few projects to be funded for the good of all, in respect to media/processing across platforms
20130429 00:00:02 <void256> does processing mean the processing or "processing data" in general?
20130429 00:00:09 <void256> sorry for the dumb question ^^
20130429 00:00:23 <void256> "*THE* processing app"
20130429 00:00:26 <sgothel> there is no dump question: Yes, so scientific stuff too
20130429 00:00:46 <void256> ah, alright
20130429 00:01:22 <sgothel> I am actually fighting w/ myself with that .. doing a Phd for some modelling w/ distributed hw-accel .. bla .. but before the financial aspect is not clear, I cannot do that
20130429 00:01:50 <sgothel> i.e. would need a safe 2-4 years
20130429 00:02:38 <sgothel> until then: janitor job .. make jogamp great and useful and try to get customers :)
20130429 00:02:54 <sgothel> well .. we have a lot, but also the paying folks :)
20130429 00:03:09 <void256> heh ;)
20130429 00:03:44 <sgothel> voidFF .. I have to log into this career page .. hmm .. will try that later
20130429 00:04:10 <void256> uhm, didn't know that ... I expected it to be public available
20130429 00:04:17 <void256> but maybe it's better that way
20130429 00:04:51 <sgothel> if you like - http://jogamp.org/wiki/index.php/Maintainer_and_Contacts (for Nifty maybe ..)
20130429 00:05:05 <sgothel> IMHO advertising behind a log-in wall doesn't work :)
20130429 00:05:18 <void256> hehe
20130429 00:05:32 <void256> its stackoverflow careers thingy
20130429 00:05:34 <sgothel> i.e. all open source effort is great advertising if you know how did it
20130429 00:05:40 <void256> looked good so I filled it out ^^
20130429 00:06:23 <void256> well
20130429 00:06:25 <sgothel> but this anonymous thingy .. well, I can tell you that potential customers will have a 'oh my good .. so hard to contact him, probably kindergarden' reaction
20130429 00:06:35 <void256> as my experience with matthias m told me ... not always ^^
20130429 00:07:05 <void256> yeah, good point tho
20130429 00:08:43 <sgothel> sweet .. nice chatting, will cont a bit on the multi-monitor thingy .. and then hit the bed. voidFF .. maybe you can send me an email. Laters and good night!
20130429 00:09:08 <void256> an email?
20130429 00:09:18 <void256> with the slides?
20130429 00:09:21 <void256> of course
20130429 00:09:34 <sgothel> yup .. and for 'real name contact' .. slides should be w/ your real name as well
20130429 00:09:41 <void256> is there a deadline?
20130429 00:09:48 <void256> (final question ^^)
20130429 00:09:52 <void256> 21.07?
20130429 00:09:54 <sgothel> yes, 1-2 weeks before the BOF :)
20130429 00:09:54 <void256> xD
20130429 00:10:02 <void256> alright
20130429 00:10:07 <void256> so end of june
20130429 00:10:09 <sgothel> you know git ? great
20130429 00:10:15 <void256> git rocks
20130429 00:10:34 <void256> I'll send you an email
20130429 00:10:39 <void256> and then I'll go to bed too ;)
20130429 00:10:41 <sgothel> thanks, awesome - good night then, good night Mark, and the others.
20130429 00:10:44 <void256> nighty night
20130429 00:11:52 * rmk0 waves
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