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20130506 11:38:24 <gouessej> hi
20130506 11:39:42 <gouessej> Sven, have you made a decision about the bug 723? I spoke to Xerxes about that last week
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20130506 15:33:24 <sgothel> http://jogamp.org/files/screenshots/newt-mmonitor/html/
20130506 15:33:44 <sgothel> just finished multi monitor .. and a few simple bugs
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20130506 18:43:30 <hharrison> sgothel: any chance you could give a synopsis of the NEWT api change?
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20130506 19:38:41 <gouessej> hi
20130506 19:39:01 <gouessej> Sven, when do you plan to build a new build on Maven?
20130506 19:39:25 <gouessej> I would like to modify Ardor3D to make it work with your changes
20130506 19:44:39 <sgothel> back .. probably tonight/tomorrow early, wanne take care of the key - stuff
20130506 19:45:25 <sgothel> btw: out of home/office: May 9th - May 15th
20130506 19:45:57 <gouessej> ok, as you wish
20130506 19:46:14 <sgothel> (i.e. check your changes etc)
20130506 19:46:18 <gouessej> What about the bug 723? Do you like the solution suggested by Xerxes?
20130506 19:46:28 <sgothel> I have to look at all your work ..
20130506 19:46:39 <sgothel> had no time .. was fixing mmonitor ..
20130506 19:46:52 <gouessej> ok but my change is not that good anyway
20130506 19:46:55 <xranby_ac100> sgothel: gouessej: good evening
20130506 19:47:05 <gouessej> Good evening Xerxes
20130506 19:47:07 <sgothel> @Harvey: In short: One more delegation, i.e. MonitorDevice
20130506 19:47:11 <sgothel> Good day
20130506 19:47:45 <sgothel> And MonitorMode changed .. actually change is massive, but IMHO .. natural
20130506 19:47:51 <xranby_ac100> wow wow wow. multimonitor exciting times!
20130506 19:48:09 <sgothel> (05:33:24 PM) sgothel: http://jogamp.org/files/screenshots/newt-mmonitor/html/ :)
20130506 19:48:16 <gouessej> Sven, it's really great
20130506 19:48:19 <gouessej> :)
20130506 19:49:54 <sgothel> thx .. so until May 5th .. will try to fix more bugs .. hopefully a day for libav w/ Xerxes
20130506 19:50:22 <sgothel> .. and fixing tests .. last build looks ugly :|
20130506 19:50:51 <xranby_ac100> its may 6 now
20130506 19:50:59 <sgothel> uh
20130506 19:51:14 <gouessej> you meant 15th
20130506 19:51:31 <sgothel> May 9th - May 15th :)
20130506 19:52:45 <xranby_ac100> ah ok great
20130506 19:54:25 <xranby_ac100> imho since libav looks to soon get joal dependency at least for the ffmpeg video player makes me think it would be sane to move the util package outside the jogl tree
20130506 19:55:04 <xranby_ac100> else we get a joal source dependency for building jogl
20130506 19:55:08 <xranby_ac100> core
20130506 19:55:57 <sgothel> that build dependency is OK w/ me :) .. at runtime we can check whether it's available
20130506 19:56:27 <sgothel> well .. sure .. could also make it optional ..
20130506 19:56:41 <sgothel> we figure that out
20130506 19:57:37 <gouessej> I agree with Xerxes
20130506 19:58:28 <gouessej> It's better to avoid mixing everything, keep it modular
20130506 20:05:57 <sgothel> well well .. we could have an internal module .. like NEWT (av-util) and build only if JOAL is avail - for now. I hesitate to create a new jenkins job etc. But again - lets nail this down later, and focus on production .. IMHO. I am not that closed to such an idea :)
20130506 20:06:23 <sgothel> maybe later, when we include libav builds (like openal-soft) .. an own module makes sense
20130506 20:07:18 <sgothel> now I have to check why new mmonitor/randr13 doesn't work well on openindiana/older-linux ..
20130506 20:08:39 <gouessej> there's no hurry about that
20130506 20:08:51 <sgothel> siggraph :)
20130506 20:09:29 <gouessej> yes but the most important thing consists in making it work, we can improve the packaging later, can't we?
20130506 20:09:34 <sgothel> et al: pls read the new unit tests TestScreenMode01bNEWT TestScreenMode01cNEWT .. and check whether the newt mmonitor API is .. err .. intuitive
20130506 20:09:49 <sgothel> yup!
20130506 20:14:03 <gouessej> ok but you haven't read my draft
20130506 20:15:05 <sgothel> true (input controller, I guess) - but hey, your inspired/reported mmonitor! :)
20130506 20:15:31 <sgothel> good to remind me - thx
20130506 20:18:37 <sgothel> gee .. need an 'epsilon' to filter out refresh rate now :)
20130506 20:26:33 <gouessej> lol I know you're very busy
20130506 20:26:40 <gouessej> I have to look at your unit tests
20130506 20:26:53 <gouessej> as far as I know, only one term was a bit weird for me
20130506 20:27:01 <gouessej> OutputEvent??
20130506 20:36:55 <gouessej> It would be better if a native Englsh developer could tell us whether the chosen terms are correct
20130506 20:39:44 <gouessej> getMonitorDevices(), MonitorMode, cool
20130506 20:40:43 <gouessej> "MonitorMode sm" Sven do you still think about computer science when you write that?
20130506 20:56:23 <sgothel> pardon ? sm was old due to ScreenMode, should rename them to mm :)
20130506 20:56:31 <sgothel> I did most renames .. well
20130506 20:57:06 <sgothel> I aligned the names to RandR .. so terminology should be fine ..
20130506 20:57:14 <gouessej> my humour is bad
20130506 20:57:24 <sgothel> OutputEvent in contrast to InputEvent
20130506 20:57:38 <gouessej> ok now I understand
20130506 20:57:42 <sgothel> oh .. sorry didn't get that - you meant sado-maso ? :)
20130506 20:58:00 <gouessej> actually... yes
20130506 20:58:03 <sgothel> hehe
20130506 21:06:17 <sgothel> need to filterByRate* after filterByResolution* - new refresh rate accuracy/pool simply would filter out desired target resolution.
20130506 21:20:15 <gouessej> ok
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20130506 23:35:30 <sgothel> mmonitor: updated API doc .. etc
20130506 23:36:48 <sgothel> @Harvey: The API change should be visible via the MonitorMode API doc delta ..
20130506 23:37:44 <sgothel> in short: all mode operations moved from Screen -> MonitorDevice
20130506 23:39:14 <hharrison> thanks, I'll have a go tonight
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