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20130709 06:06:14 <olamedia> hmm... pulseaudio failing, codecs missing... again java suprises me
20130709 06:09:23 <olamedia> ..and only jogl video is working http://rghost.ru/47305117.view
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20130709 08:00:33 <olamedia> how to check if GLMediaPlayer has finished job?
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20130709 08:06:08 <olamedia> last position don't match duration: 224824/225094
20130709 08:06:48 <olamedia> well.. that was ms
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20130709 08:12:35 <olamedia> seeking is not working well
20130709 08:12:48 <olamedia> (with remote urlconnection)
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20130709 15:19:53 <sgothel> Good morning
20130709 15:20:39 <sgothel> @Harvey: Thx for pic/text - might be better to show a bigger 3d section w/o UI (see other jogl/www 'icons')
20130709 15:21:27 <sgothel> Latest NEWT Display/Screen/Window WeakReference usage caused forcing fixing EDTUtil (good)
20130709 15:23:05 <xranby> ok the joal-demos www examples are now kind of usefull! https://github.com/sgothel/joal-demos/pull/4
20130709 15:23:32 <sgothel> nice - thank you! will merge soon 'after tests'
20130709 15:24:28 <xranby> speaking of joal .. we should merge gouessej's joal WAV loader before 2.0.2 i have merged his branch into mine https://github.com/xranby/joal
20130709 15:24:31 <sgothel> until Thu/Fri: Stabilize and finish ES3/GL4.3 - then see for our A/V stuff and OpenCL
20130709 15:24:49 <sgothel> yes .. I like that - but need a test
20130709 15:25:25 <sgothel> I also like to unify the short/int value bitstreaming in native- LSB/MSB order
20130709 15:25:26 <xranby> sgothel: ok i can work on a test.. have it load the fancy pants wav file that is still found in jogl
20130709 15:25:53 <sgothel> I mentioned above .. i.e. one ugly in ElfParser using NIO buffers
20130709 15:25:59 <xranby> (17:26:32) sgothel: I also like to unify the short/int value bitstreaming in native- LSB/MSB order <-- hmm not sure how to do that off the head
20130709 15:26:21 <xranby> a performance tweak?
20130709 15:26:39 <hharrison> WRT to Java3d slides, I've got SweetHome3 and VZome done, got in touch with some people at JPL and they are providing a slide or two as they just migrated one app to my Java3d
20130709 15:26:42 <sgothel> jogamp.common.os.elf.IOUtils readInt32(..) etc
20130709 15:27:14 <sgothel> (correctness, beauty and performance :)
20130709 15:27:18 <xranby> hharrison: nice.. is the curiosity rover using Java3D ?
20130709 15:27:50 <hharrison> Nope, planning software for an orbiter around Saturn
20130709 15:27:51 <sgothel> @Harvey: Sweet .. NASA/JPL using Java3d ? Well :)
20130709 15:28:17 <sgothel> @Harvey: Today I will jump on OSX .. stability and 7u40 testing (CALayer stuff)
20130709 15:28:39 <sgothel> @ALL: KUDOS to Harvey - Looks like the T-Shirts are safely managed by now!
20130709 15:29:15 <sgothel> @Xerxes: I needed to remove transparency (opacity:1) in SVG files to export them to EPS as vectors .. works and pushed.
20130709 15:29:33 <hharrison> Google for Cassini VIMS project...or wait for the slides @Siggraph
20130709 15:29:35 <xranby> \o/
20130709 15:29:35 <hharrison> ;-)
20130709 15:30:18 <sgothel> @ALL: Need to align slides w/ the new 'story' (wiki) etc .. :]
20130709 15:31:21 <sgothel> If all goes as planned .. I guess I just can relax and lay back at BOF and stopping your guys time :)
20130709 15:32:02 <hharrison> The JPL slide will be interesting as they promised some text about 'Why Java3d' and their experience migrating to JOGL2 (webstart now wroks without installing on client machines...big deal for them)
20130709 15:33:27 <sgothel> great
20130709 15:34:29 <rmk0> sgothel: what d'you need to know?
20130709 15:35:04 <sgothel> @Mark: 'know' ?
20130709 15:35:28 <rmk0> er, what... info... do you need, for slides?
20130709 15:35:50 <sgothel> WE need the slides themselves :)
20130709 15:35:53 <rmk0> oh
20130709 15:36:00 * rmk0 relaxes
20130709 15:36:01 <sgothel> you have posted yours ..
20130709 15:36:43 <sgothel> http://jogamp.org/files/siggraph2013/ <- WHOever does the merge .. here is the sandbox of slides to merge!
20130709 15:38:17 <sgothel> 'xrandr -s 0 -o normal' doesn't work on all platforms .. grrrr
20130709 16:25:13 <hharrison> xranby: in a previous life I did a lot of the byteorder helpers in the linux kernel, if you want to collaborate on some byteorder helpers, feel free to drop me a line/RFC code
20130709 16:25:50 <hharrison> There are some already done inside the pngj project, I just wasn't a huge fan of the naming
20130709 16:26:03 <hharrison> The implementation was alright though
20130709 16:49:50 <sgothel> sounds great Harvey .. I will have a look at them
20130709 16:51:04 <sgothel> whoever starts that 1st .. lets make a little email-list, thx
20130709 17:03:45 <hharrison> I can't entirely recall, but I thought there was a google lib that was fairly open licensed...guava?
20130709 17:04:02 <hharrison> Part of that was some good byte-order reader/writer stuff
20130709 17:04:14 <hharrison> (but my memory may be faulty)
20130709 17:04:29 <sgothel> just a few lines of code .. but if something well tested, small and license compatible exists - we can copy/use those lines.
20130709 17:06:03 <hharrison> Too bad we can't just assume Java7, this is one area that really improves for this stuff -> unsigned types
20130709 17:06:25 <hharrison> Otherwise you have to be super careful with sign extension/silent type expansion
20130709 17:06:45 <sgothel> yup
20130709 17:07:17 <sgothel> anybody here knows how to tame nvidia xrandr behavior ?
20130709 17:07:35 <sgothel> xrandr -s 1920x1200 -> Size 1920x1200 not found in available modes
20130709 17:07:39 <sgothel> but it sure does ..
20130709 17:21:31 <hharrison> ...finds that resolution, but at what bit depth?
20130709 17:21:57 <sgothel> bitdepth not handled w/ randr
20130709 17:22:09 <sgothel> me now trying to manually add a modeline ..
20130709 17:22:45 <sgothel> also: 'xrandr --q1' shows that on some machines the list is not well sorted, hence '-s 0' doesn't work as intended
20130709 17:23:08 <sgothel> need to have a 'reset' feature not relying on our code for tests .. hmm
20130709 17:44:27 <sgothel> on OpenIndiana/Solaris: Adding 'Modes "1920x1200" "1600x1200" ..' to the Screen's Subsection "Display" somewhat makes it working, i.e. all modes present in proper order
20130709 18:00:46 <sgothel> .. but after using XRandR 1.3 by our code .. it is all back to 'chaos' .. mode n/a etc
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20130709 19:55:23 <sgothel> anybody knows the 'Pantone color code' ?
20130709 19:55:31 <sgothel> Out T-Shirt designers:
20130709 19:55:39 <sgothel> > Please let us know the pantone color numbers for the front two colors.
20130709 19:55:46 <sgothel> > Also please let us know the pantone color number for the back green tree design.
20130709 19:56:05 <sgothel> all those fine prints :)
20130709 19:56:21 <sgothel> @Harvey ?
20130709 19:56:41 <sgothel> the RGB values are in the file ..
20130709 19:58:54 <sgothel> front #3b4d4f + #a6ceff
20130709 19:59:21 <sgothel> back (tree): #114b3c
20130709 19:59:23 <hharrison> here, will pass that one
20130709 20:00:44 <sgothel> yup - pls let them 'decide' using the 3 RGB ones - thank you!
20130709 20:01:24 <sgothel> you may tell them, tested on white and grayish background w/ sRGB monitor .. if that helps
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20130709 20:03:06 <hharrison> http://www.netfront.fr/Services/rgb2pantone/
20130709 20:03:11 <hharrison> I'll figure it out
20130709 20:03:59 <sgothel> http://www.netfront.fr/Services/rgb2pantone/pantone.htm?r=&g=&b=&rgb=114b3c
20130709 20:04:00 <sgothel> nice
20130709 20:04:13 <sgothel> yup .. better you, I am a bit color bllind :) [red/green]
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20130709 20:05:54 <hharrison> I'm just going to shoot him the RGB and that link, see what he'll think looks most like it, my color sense is also lacking
20130709 20:06:37 <sgothel> hehe .. we better do wireframes then :)
20130709 20:06:56 <hharrison> 3b4d4f -> Pantone 7546 looks closest
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20130709 20:08:23 <sgothel> the randr reset seems to be fixed now .. puhh
20130709 20:08:47 <xranby1> http://www.ginifab.com/feeds/pms/ <- RGB to PMS color lookup
20130709 20:10:13 <xranby1> The front jogamp logo dark gray color #3b4d4f IMHO match PMS 446 C
20130709 20:10:53 <sgothel> .. go on :) - Hope Harvey will fwd this ..
20130709 20:11:09 <hharrison> xranby: thanks
20130709 20:11:35 <sgothel> @Xerxes: 2 more :)
20130709 20:11:53 <xranby1> front #A6CEFF match PMS 277 C
20130709 20:12:11 <hharrison> a6ceff -> 277C
20130709 20:12:14 <hharrison> hah!
20130709 20:12:19 <hharrison> agreed!
20130709 20:12:33 <sgothel> (me better keep silent :)
20130709 20:13:03 <xranby1> back #114B3C -> PMS 3435 C
20130709 20:13:30 <hharrison> 3B4d4f-> 432C
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20130709 20:13:58 <sgothel> so - who is the one w/ the perfect eyes ? :)
20130709 20:14:07 <hharrison> xranby: actualyl yours is better
20130709 20:15:02 <hharrison> OK, so, final palllette I'm sending will be Front: PMS 277C and PMS 446C
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20130709 20:15:29 <xranby1> ok I agree
20130709 20:15:41 <sgothel> great
20130709 20:16:07 <hharrison> Back: PMS 3435C
20130709 20:16:32 <hharrison> OK, emailing now
20130709 20:16:57 <sgothel> pls add the RGB -> PMS .. so they know what is what (but I guess they just know it anyways?)
20130709 20:17:06 <xranby1> great
20130709 20:17:21 <sgothel> so we will have the t-shirts - awesome!
20130709 20:20:38 <hharrison> sent
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20130709 20:33:16 <sgothel> looks like builds are getting stable by now .. :) late dinner .. and laters!
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20130709 22:13:19 <hharrison> sgothel: reading 453ccee8e3ce90956756d1582852b13f45cd2f38
20130709 22:13:55 <hharrison> I will give this a more thorough read, but one thing that jumps out is the for a method 'private final' is redundant
20130709 22:14:02 <hharrison> private implies final there
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20130709 22:20:55 <sgothel> back ..
20130709 22:22:05 <sgothel> @Harvey .. yup
20130709 22:22:27 <hharrison> trivial, but one of those things that hits my internal pattern-matcher
20130709 22:22:51 <sgothel> @Harvey: Thx for review - you may start review from EDTUtil changed interface ..
20130709 22:23:10 <hharrison> I intend to go through the series
20130709 22:23:24 <hharrison> Just had a half-hour while waiting for a testsuite run
20130709 22:23:27 <sgothel> maybe also WeakReference list .. the cause ..
20130709 22:23:47 <sgothel> i.e. the whole prev. lifecycle of the local cache was .. simply wrong
20130709 22:24:21 <sgothel> i.e. a 'destroy' shall not remove instance from cache, since it can be reused
20130709 22:24:42 <sgothel> hence the weak-pattern using GC as trigger for trash ..
20130709 22:26:00 <sgothel> well, the 'final' (even though private) also tells us, it's initialized only once
20130709 22:26:15 <sgothel> it is an inline-hint
20130709 22:26:53 <sgothel> regardless of JVM impl. .. sure
20130709 22:39:18 <sgothel> @Xerxes: Merged joal* .. building
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20130709 22:46:42 <hharrison> sorry, inline-hint?
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20130709 22:47:36 <sgothel> if a local is final, it is written/init once, hence a const, hence it could be inlined
20130709 22:47:49 <sgothel> i.e. no use of local .. helper for runtime optimizations
20130709 22:48:09 <sgothel> most important for me: for code review, i.e. not a variable, but constant
20130709 22:48:10 <hharrison> Sorry, I didn't mean members, just method declarations private final void foo()
20130709 22:48:20 <sgothel> oh
20130709 22:48:42 <sgothel> you may change it when reviewing .. OK w/ me
20130709 22:49:13 <hharrison> It's trivia, and it doesn't hurt anything, maybe my pattern-matcher is just overly sensitive
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