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20130804 06:40:57 <sgothel> @Xerxes: Yup .. I read about Canonical's phone thing incl. their call for money - which .. I really dunno whether that is all great.
20130804 06:42:01 <sgothel> Note: Mark S. did say he would like to use free stuff .. but regardless what he likes .. things must be blobs .. and IMHO this is just another hype
20130804 06:42:24 <sgothel> Jolla .. yes, IMHO a much more professional path
20130804 06:42:54 <sgothel> .. which I was hinting, while referencing their tech ..
20130804 06:44:14 <sgothel> Maybe we should crowd-fund Ji Gong :)
20130804 06:44:48 <sgothel> seriously .. wonder why Jolla and Mer's other 'end user' won't get that much publicity ? Not initiated in the US ? :)
20130804 07:39:16 <sgothel> https://jogamp.org/bugzilla/showdependencytree.cgi?id=790&hide_resolved=1
20130804 09:18:56 <sgothel> http://forum.jogamp.org/Project-Ji-Gong-td4029738.html
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20130804 14:54:44 <sgothel> good afternoon - hi Xerxes
20130804 14:57:19 <xranby> sgothel: good afternoon!
20130804 14:57:41 <xranby> i need a nice creative commons licensed #JiGong image
20130804 14:58:15 <sgothel> hehe .. some 'bump w/ a bottle of wine .. broken head & shirt' :)
20130804 14:58:16 <xranby> else i will simple take one of the images from our outdoor bench office
20130804 14:58:34 <sgothel> .. asking Qun ..
20130804 14:59:21 <sgothel> Qun will draw one ..
20130804 14:59:34 <xranby> i think i will copy this one http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-WMUjN1E95H8/Tey9VnI-lfI/AAAAAAAAABk/-VAhcOX-Xvc/s320/image001.jpg
20130804 14:59:48 <sgothel> he :)
20130804 14:59:52 <xranby> JiGong style
20130804 15:00:13 <sgothel> not really .. more the exact opposite :)
20130804 15:00:28 <sgothel> so this is anti-JiGong
20130804 15:00:37 <sgothel> hmm ..
20130804 15:00:38 <xranby> yes well it illustrate the quote nicely
20130804 15:00:53 <xranby> why openjdk and its chair is not moving
20130804 15:01:06 <sgothel> yes - that is true and perfect
20130804 15:01:28 <sgothel> Qun will draw / find an icon / image for the project itself ..
20130804 15:02:18 <sgothel> subtitle to your pick: 'why aren't you running?' :)
20130804 15:02:40 <xranby> OpenJDK and its chair have decided to not go mobile
20130804 15:02:50 <xranby> ?
20130804 15:02:52 <sgothel> hahaha! BEST!
20130804 15:03:13 <sgothel> (the answer to that Q) .. awesome!
20130804 15:03:48 <sgothel> .. that Oracle Chair ..
20130804 15:04:12 <sgothel> chair .. board .. good one
20130804 15:06:33 <sgothel> .. discussed an 'incentive' from our pockets to fund the 1st tedious stage ..
20130804 15:07:14 <sgothel> dunno how to do this w/o insulting folks .. hmm, i.e. some amount of money is better than nothing, but others may think it's ridiculous
20130804 15:07:52 <sgothel> i.e. 5k or 10k EUR .. while I would write the JWeb thingy
20130804 15:08:25 <sgothel> what do you think ?
20130804 15:08:56 <sgothel> is it possible to do the 1st stage in 1 1/2 month ?
20130804 15:09:30 <sgothel> https://jogamp.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=791 / https://jogamp.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=792
20130804 15:09:53 <sgothel> probably not for all platforms .. hmm
20130804 15:12:42 <xranby> let me check if there is a way to double funding, we have several ways to do so here in sweden
20130804 15:13:51 <xranby> up to 100k EUR projects
20130804 15:14:03 <sgothel> how is that ? who does that ?
20130804 15:14:27 <sgothel> i.e. from companies like ours to folks who do the job .. tax free ?
20130804 15:14:49 <xranby> in sweden we have a govenment organisation called KK-stiftelsen who gives grants to swedish innovation if you put up the other half
20130804 15:15:21 <sgothel> oh .. we should look into this as well .. i.e. Germany, thought those programs are non national, EU wide ?
20130804 15:15:28 <xranby> usually KK-stiftelsen assigns contractors that help them follow up the projects
20130804 15:16:03 <xranby> in sweden some projects are founded by money from kk-stiftelsen through acreo an govenment owned research organisation
20130804 15:16:16 <sgothel> sounds great
20130804 15:16:27 <xranby> my company recieved one of these grants through acreo some years ago
20130804 15:16:30 <xranby> and it worked fine
20130804 15:16:40 <xranby> we had to report in once a month
20130804 15:16:59 <xranby> to make sure the project was following the original plan
20130804 15:17:11 <sgothel> .. and you think this could attract 'one good' developer who does the job 'well' ? i.e. makes a difference ?
20130804 15:18:42 <xranby> http://translate.google.se/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=sv&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.zafena.se%2FSvenska%2FAcreo2007&act=url
20130804 15:18:45 <sgothel> sure it would be best to have one who already knows OpenJDK well
20130804 15:19:17 <sgothel> .. loves our idea .. has time .. and maybe likes/need the financial incentive
20130804 15:20:10 <xranby> sure.. the person who files the project proposal may pick people for tutoring or assign external contractors to complete the project
20130804 15:22:04 <xranby> for example during this project zafena got tutoring on testability by a swedish university, tutoring from a regular ENEA course on embedde linux, and we also hired external contractors to do mathematical calculations on optics using these channels
20130804 15:23:58 <sgothel> sounds great. for sure we all can help w/ the tutoring / work etc
20130804 15:24:55 <xranby> so lets discuss this further when i am back to work
20130804 15:25:02 <sgothel> but who would be the right person .. w/ satisfying knowledge and interest / enthusiasm .. yup
20130804 15:25:18 <sgothel> good thing ..
20130804 15:26:04 <xranby> first requirement is a bussnings case how the evolvement of the technology will improve existing companies in europe
20130804 15:26:18 <xranby> or a single company
20130804 15:26:30 <xranby> so you should be able to recive similar funding
20130804 15:27:40 <sgothel> sure.. we have both (company and a raw plan as posted)
20130804 16:55:04 <xranby> Carsten Munk @stskeeps 28m So: Alcatel One Touch Fire, http://www.gsmarena.com/alcatel_one_touch_fire-5319.php … - can run Mer, Qt5, Wayland on libhybris and is very hackable @ 95 EUR.
20130804 16:55:20 <xranby> http://www.gsmarena.com/alcatel_one_touch_fire-5319.php
20130804 16:55:34 <xranby> http://releases.merproject.org/~carsten/13080004.jpg
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20130804 22:19:04 <xranby> kermyt: welcome
20130804 22:37:31 <xranby> sgothel: i quote posted you into the blog o sphere: http://labb.zafena.se/
20130804 22:38:09 <xranby> http://labb.zafena.se/?p=906 - JogAmp Ji Gong project announcement
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