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#jogamp @ irc.freenode.net - 20130906 05:06:10 (UTC)

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20130906 08:14:41 <sgothel> @Xerxes: Now printing somewhat works
20130906 08:15:52 <xranby> sgothel: i will cross check
20130906 08:18:07 <sgothel> discussion is about API
20130906 08:18:53 <sgothel> in the test you can see .. glc-setup, resize whole frame and print, glc-release
20130906 08:19:56 <sgothel> unit test 'silently' produces 2 prints as files
20130906 08:22:14 <xranby> missing return ? i always see No PS
20130906 08:22:32 <xranby> in the TestTiledPrintingGearsAWT
20130906 08:27:39 <sgothel> ?
20130906 08:27:54 <sgothel> not files generated ?
20130906 08:28:46 <sgothel> guess I can make the print via 'buttons' use the UI dialog again
20130906 08:30:33 <xranby> sgothel: http://labb.zafena.se/jogamp/test/tile-nvidia/
20130906 08:32:22 <sgothel> checking n2 + n3 .. diff file size .. hmm
20130906 08:32:53 <sgothel> hmm ..
20130906 08:33:00 <sgothel> 300dpi all w/o gears ?
20130906 08:33:14 <xranby> there was gears on the screen
20130906 08:33:22 <xranby> but i cant see them in the ps file
20130906 08:33:26 <sgothel> yes
20130906 08:33:31 <xranby> possibly related to the icedtea bug
20130906 08:33:42 <sgothel> but only on your 72dpi ps file .. maybe
20130906 08:33:43 <xranby> http://icedtea.classpath.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=801
20130906 08:34:16 <sgothel> hmm
20130906 08:34:26 <sgothel> maybe remove the 'debug lines' :)
20130906 08:34:47 <sgothel> w/ oracle .. result is avail here
20130906 08:35:06 <sgothel> however .. the API is the big thing .. which does not satisfy me
20130906 08:35:40 <sgothel> print API does not have callbacks like 'will print' .. and 'printing done'
20130906 08:36:08 <sgothel> but we need setup, to 'disconnect' the GL resources .. and create offscreen ones
20130906 08:36:57 <sgothel> we 'could' drop that .. and do it at 1st print .. and also do all at one print command .. but I am scared that this eats up too much resources
20130906 08:37:08 <sgothel> i.e. resize GLCanvas -> 4k x 4k
20130906 08:37:36 <sgothel> in sort: AWT print API sucks :/
20130906 08:38:14 <sgothel> wouldn't one want to print everything high-res based on an offscreen rendering result ?
20130906 08:40:51 <xranby> sgothel: some years back i wrote a barcode printer api.. that lets me print directly to brother ptouch printers
20130906 08:41:04 <xranby> in summary i dithched the java print api completly
20130906 08:41:15 <sgothel> hehe :
20130906 08:41:18 <sgothel> :)
20130906 08:41:32 <xranby> and wrote my own driver, buffered the image and used my own rasterizer to get the printout
20130906 08:41:45 <sgothel> yes .. sure this impl. of 'print(Graphics)' is for the dudes who want to print the AWT+GL content
20130906 08:41:56 <sgothel> wow
20130906 08:41:57 <xranby> http://labb.zafena.se/?category_name=gplable
20130906 08:42:38 <sgothel> holy moly .. wouldn't exporting to file .. w/ 'lp' command not be enough ? no OS I assume ? :)
20130906 08:42:54 <xranby> this code was linux specific
20130906 08:43:02 <xranby> talking to the /dev/lp driver directly
20130906 08:43:24 <xranby> was enough for my needs at that time to create barcode printouts
20130906 08:44:13 <sgothel> interesting .. "rasterise any Java swing frame/panel/component" ?
20130906 08:44:14 <xranby> worked on the linux asus eee pc's
20130906 08:44:22 <sgothel> so you do render that offscreen ?
20130906 08:45:00 <sgothel> nice nice
20130906 08:45:16 <xranby> //Create a buffer image with our desired size to print.
20130906 08:45:16 <xranby> JLayeredPane layeredPane = this.getLayeredPane();
20130906 08:45:16 <xranby> BufferedImage image = (BufferedImage) layeredPane.createImage(w, h);
20130906 08:45:16 <xranby> Graphics imageGraphics = image.getGraphics();
20130906 08:45:16 <xranby> if (imageGraphics.getClipBounds() != null) {
20130906 08:45:17 <xranby> imageGraphics.setClip(0, 0, w, h);
20130906 08:45:17 <xranby> }
20130906 08:45:18 <xranby> //Paint the buffer image with the jLabel panel and its sub-contents.
20130906 08:45:18 <xranby> //This can be any swing panel that supports the paint operation!
20130906 08:45:19 <xranby> jLabel.paint(imageGraphics);
20130906 08:45:19 <xranby> //Image now contains our data
20130906 08:45:20 <xranby> //Now we want to turn the image into rasterised QL-bitmapformat data
20130906 08:45:20 <xranby> //by creating a print job
20130906 08:45:21 <xranby> QL550PrintJob job = new QL550PrintJob(image);
20130906 08:45:34 <sgothel> oh ..
20130906 08:46:15 <sgothel> now if that would work w/ Frame .. I would be happy :)
20130906 08:46:22 <sgothel> maybe only JFrame ?
20130906 08:46:30 <sgothel> or some swing only .. hmm
20130906 08:47:03 <sgothel> (me surely not a master in Swing :)
20130906 08:48:00 <xranby> most swing components implements this .paint methos
20130906 08:48:02 <xranby> method
20130906 08:48:30 <xranby> oh awt as well!
20130906 08:49:03 <sgothel> I guess I will play w/ this a bit .. good hint, thank you
20130906 08:49:14 <sgothel> so gplabel does produce PS/PDF ?
20130906 08:49:23 <sgothel> for lp driver ?
20130906 08:49:41 <sgothel> or native bitstream format for that printer ?
20130906 08:49:59 <xranby> sgothel: no.. because the brother labelprinter basically wanted an array of bytes
20130906 08:50:10 <sgothel> ah
20130906 08:50:28 <sgothel> see see .. :)
20130906 08:50:49 <xranby> the rasterizer implements "grayscale"
20130906 08:51:03 <xranby> by lowering resolution
20130906 08:51:59 <sgothel> oh yes .. the unit test has a bad 'scaling' code .. i.e. dpi and frame-to-page .. jikes
20130906 08:53:09 <sgothel> need to check w/ further .. before impl. it on GLJPanel and NewtCanvasAWT .. hmm
20130906 08:57:20 <sgothel> .. hmm .. so from 'Nobel peace price holder' to 'war criminal' now (again) ? (O. willing to attack w/o UN mandate/blessing)
20130906 09:01:06 <sgothel> the payees <http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics-live/liveblog/the-houses-syria-hearing-live-updates/#e68f139f-e012-476c-876e-2467ba30e5e3> .. OMG, they don't even try to hide anything anymore. US for hire .. Yes, Israel is in that 'club' as well, besides SA QT
20130906 09:07:33 <sgothel> US votes pro/con war (House) <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AmXJhRgn8UhudFlwcFdEVWt5TXdCRGFPWW5Pd21Sd3c&output=html>
20130906 09:21:37 <xranby> http://labb.zafena.se/Files/misc/1237930_10151554414042035_214447840_n.jpg
20130906 09:22:16 <sgothel> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Living_US_Presidents_2009.jpg <- the distance one stands apart :)
20130906 09:36:20 <xranby> sgothel: for offscreen components such as JFrames try comp.setSize(240, 240); comp.doLayout();
20130906 09:37:19 <xranby> after that you may use the component to paint a buffered image
20130906 09:37:42 <xranby> using
20130906 09:37:56 <xranby> BufferedImage image;
20130906 09:37:56 <xranby> int w = comp.getWidth();
20130906 09:37:56 <xranby> int h = comp.getHeight();
20130906 09:37:56 <xranby> image = new BufferedImage(w, h, BufferedImage.TYPE_3BYTE_BGR);
20130906 09:37:56 <xranby> Graphics g = image.getGraphics();
20130906 09:37:56 <xranby> g.setClip(0, 0, w, h);
20130906 09:37:56 <xranby> comp.printAll(g);
20130906 09:39:02 <xranby> i hope it helps
20130906 09:40:31 <sgothel> hmm .. will try that, thx
20130906 09:53:43 <xranby> http://streamcomputing.eu/blog/2013-09-05/arm-opencl-drivers-q3-2013/ - For your convenience: an overview of all ARM-GPUs and their driver-availability.
20130906 09:57:37 <xranby> OpenCL
20130906 09:58:09 <sgothel> now I feel like crying: MAaaaaMaaaaa :)
20130906 09:58:21 <sgothel> (me realizing that I DO NOT SCALE WELL)
20130906 09:58:37 <sgothel> great link - thx :)
20130906 09:58:53 <sgothel> should add it to Wiki/JOCL page
20130906 09:59:31 <sgothel> how about that tv-box rasp dude ? maybe he likes to impl the backend for GLMediaPlayer now ?
20130906 09:59:51 <sgothel> (futile attempt to delegate jobs)
20130906 10:00:21 <sgothel> @Mark: Hope you got the t-shirts as well
20130906 10:02:02 <xranby> he pushed a patch to his git to enable the "even if its probably broken" OMX implementation by default
20130906 10:03:33 <xranby> https://github.com/gabereiser/gluegen/commits/vc_core_glmediaplayer and https://github.com/gabereiser/jogl/commits/vc_core_glmediaplayer
20130906 10:06:01 <sgothel> yeah .. I saw that ..
20130906 10:06:16 <sgothel> not so great, i.e. raspi is not an OS .. :)
20130906 10:06:30 <sgothel> however, we pick it up now as well .. if avail, but n/a per default
20130906 10:06:59 <xranby> ok if so then this is not needed
20130906 10:07:27 <xranby> this reminds me to take a go to get the GPU -> offscreen rendering work started
20130906 10:07:44 <sgothel> GPU -> offscreen ? whats that ?
20130906 10:08:05 <xranby> that can be used on both the eee intel GPU -> USB monitor and the Raspberry Pi offsreen render ing -> blit to X11
20130906 10:08:11 <sgothel> right
20130906 10:08:19 <sgothel> you can use the tile renderer :)
20130906 10:08:33 <sgothel> push to matrix of USB-GPUs
20130906 10:08:52 <xranby> sure.. for NEWT multi monitor support
20130906 10:09:04 <xranby> using USB monitors
20130906 10:09:04 <sgothel> simply use the unit tests ... instead of PNG push to USB-GPU .. as 1st test
20130906 10:09:30 <sgothel> use the tile-buffer, instead of composited image-buffer ..
20130906 10:10:15 <sgothel> hmm .. I need a list of purchase orders ..
20130906 10:10:29 <sgothel> those USB-GPUs, the rasp-camera, .. what else ?
20130906 10:13:26 * xranby (~xranby@anon) Quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
20130906 10:24:17 <sgothel> farnell.com .. right
20130906 10:27:36 <rmk0> lo
20130906 10:27:44 * rmk0 tries to appear
20130906 10:27:51 <rmk0> sgothel: no sign of them yet!
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20130906 10:28:05 <sgothel> hi .. maybe takes longer .. UK .. snail mail, oh well
20130906 10:28:16 <sgothel> @Xerxes: @ farnell ?
20130906 10:28:17 <rmk0> yep
20130906 10:29:28 <xranby> sgothel: remind me to give you a USB-GPU next time we meet, i have several where users have broken the "on off button" that are still usable "always on"
20130906 10:29:52 <xranby> sgothel: farnell got the pi camera
20130906 10:30:27 <xranby> http://de.farnell.com/jsp/search/productdetail.jsp?SKU=2302279#
20130906 10:32:06 <sgothel> thx .. do they have USB-GPU ? or n/a
20130906 10:32:25 <xranby> http://plugable.com/ sell a lot of the USB-GPU monitor, usb->DVI and USB multiseat
20130906 10:34:28 <sgothel> hmm .. amazon + dunno-which + 'windows-only' :/
20130906 10:34:32 <xranby> plgable is run by Bernie Thompson who work on the linux kernel drivers
20130906 10:34:36 <xranby> plugable
20130906 10:35:02 <sgothel> .. for Windows :/
20130906 10:35:09 <sgothel> so which one then ?
20130906 10:35:26 <sgothel> http://plugable.com/products/usb3-hdmi-dvi ?
20130906 10:36:46 <xranby> http://plugable.com/platforms/linux - Our products that are compatible with Linux
20130906 10:37:52 <sgothel> so .. none
20130906 10:37:57 <sgothel> I hate shopping
20130906 10:38:21 <xranby> personally i use one of these http://www.coolstuff.se/Lilliput-USB-monitor-mini-skarm
20130906 10:38:38 <xranby> in combination with the drivers done by Bernie Thompson
20130906 10:38:58 <xranby> all USB monitors on the market is using display link chips
20130906 10:39:07 <sgothel> ah ..
20130906 10:39:21 <sgothel> thx .. getting the idea
20130906 10:39:38 <sgothel> 999 EUR ? hu ?
20130906 10:39:49 <xranby> SEK
20130906 10:40:00 <sgothel> ah .. you are still free :)
20130906 10:40:25 <xranby> 1 EUR = 8.7 SEK
20130906 10:44:30 <sgothel> any DisplayLink / Bernie tech forum .. infos ?
20130906 10:44:48 <sgothel> sad I can't see such link on his company website .. hmm
20130906 10:45:00 <xranby> http://git.plugable.com/gitphp/
20130906 10:47:31 <xranby> they also have a "support" forum http://support.plugable.com/plugable/searches?query=linux&x=0&y=0&style=topics
20130906 10:48:08 <xranby> and blog posts http://plugable.com/category/project/udlfb/
20130906 10:48:09 <sgothel> yeah .. I was there .. less technical stuff .. but git is fine, thank you! plus bugzilla
20130906 10:48:57 <xranby> i belive fedora linux have best support out of the box for these devices
20130906 10:49:39 <xranby> http://plugable.com/2013/01/18/fedora-18-and-displaylink-usb-2-0-graphics-adapters
20130906 10:49:57 <xranby> sgothel: -> http://plugable.com/projects/plugable-open-source-hardware-samples-program
20130906 10:50:13 <xranby> "From time to time Plugable has extra test hardware around our labs. Rather than have it gather dust, we'd like to send it out to the open source community to help foster driver development. If you're a developer with a history submitting patches for Linux or other platforms, please just add your info below. "
20130906 10:52:17 <sgothel> all nice - guess we support him by buying 1-2 devices
20130906 10:52:18 <xranby> http://plugable.com/projects - more technical about udlfb and usbseat
20130906 10:52:53 <xranby> i agree the homepage is a bit confusing
20130906 10:53:25 <xranby> all in all good kudos to Bernie for all work put into getting it to work
20130906 10:53:34 <xranby> and seeding the foss community
20130906 10:54:29 <sgothel> wondering why DisplayLink doesn't simply expose the protocol .. yup, saw the video a while ago you posted
20130906 10:54:52 <sgothel> all good .. so another toy in the pipe .. oh my dear ..
20130906 10:55:07 <sgothel> from an architecture perspective .. exposing it as FBDEV .. might be odd ..
20130906 10:55:12 <xranby> http://plugable.com/category/linux - ah probably the best "tech" link
20130906 10:55:56 <sgothel> for composited WMs .. IMHO it should be one output 'device' .. as we intend to use it: GPU -> FBDEV
20130906 10:56:51 <sgothel> sounds like .. GNU/Linux, freedesktop would need a GLDEV or composite-dev .. hmm
20130906 10:57:08 <sgothel> to accept this in the output-device pool ..
20130906 10:58:01 <sgothel> so all this can happen for default desktop stuff .. (host-GPU -> client-USB_FBDEV)
20130906 10:58:31 <xranby> "On Fedora (17 and later), any supported USB terminal will automatically pop up a fresh login when plugged in, no software install or licenses needed."
20130906 11:07:36 <xranby> interesting topic raised by mwj in #OpenJDK
20130906 11:07:40 <xranby> (13:02:27) mjw: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/05/nsa-how-to-remain-secure-surveillance
20130906 11:07:40 <xranby> (13:02:49) mjw: hmmm, maybe I should dust off my "remove weird crypto hooks from the code" patch again.
20130906 11:07:40 <xranby> (13:03:33) mjw: Maybe this will convince people such backdoors really don't need to be in the code even if the are "harmless" and really needed by "some of our licensees"...
20130906 11:07:40 <xranby> (13:04:41) xranby: mjw: backdoors and "harmless" in the same line do not mix, raise a CVE!
20130906 11:07:40 <xranby> (13:04:49) mjw: xranby, :)
20130906 11:07:40 <xranby> (13:06:13) mjw: xranby, they are "backdoors" in the sense that they provide hooks to prevent the usage of certain algorithms or key lengths (based in ahum interesting interactions with ClassLoaders...)
20130906 11:07:40 <xranby> (13:07:15) mjw: xranby, so, they aren't active backdoors, they can just prevent some kinds of strong encryption (which IMHO can be seen as a backdoor).
20130906 11:07:41 <xranby> (13:07:51) mjw: xranby, More worrying to me is that they seem fragile and the interaction with ClassLoaders probably makes it harder to discover genuine bugs.
20130906 11:11:41 <sgothel> any circumvention of the encryption stream .. should be a considered HUGE risk .. i.e. tapping a stream ..
20130906 11:13:10 <sgothel> same w/ 'plugging in' / replacing cyphers .. etc
20130906 11:13:50 <xranby> i forward your risk assesment to mjw
20130906 11:13:57 <sgothel> not just preventing - but replacing somethign w/ a WEAK solution (no salting, weak random numbers) .. so somebody can encrypt it .. using such a 'pattern' !
20130906 11:14:37 <xranby> (13:14:57) mjw: xranby, I would point you to the bugs.openjdk.java.net patch that has been there for years now, but... it seems unavailable :{
20130906 11:15:01 <sgothel> above information already suffice to declare OpenJDK insecure related to ciphers .. Oracle ofc is always insecure!
20130906 11:15:44 <sgothel> we .. for example .. simply tunnel things through ssh .. (openssh)
20130906 11:15:55 <sgothel> (jenkins nodes)
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20130906 11:16:23 <sgothel> so yes .. the source base is probably bugged
20130906 11:16:33 <xranby> (13:16:57) mjw: xranby, I don't think openjdk is insecure (although you need to patch it to allow strong algorithms)
20130906 11:16:33 <xranby> (13:17:21) mjw: xranby, but yes, I think it is safe to assume proprietary Oracle JDKs have backdoors in their crypto providers
20130906 11:16:45 <monsieur_max> hi guys, it's been a while
20130906 11:16:52 <sgothel> hi mr. max ..
20130906 11:17:01 <xranby> (13:17:57) mjw: http://icedtea.classpath.org/hg/icedtea6/file/tip/patches/clean-crypto.patch
20130906 11:17:13 <sgothel> I guess 'mjw' doesn't get reality right :)
20130906 11:17:43 <sgothel> but if he likes to trust his sensitive data to such impl. .. good luck
20130906 11:19:22 <sgothel> "grep -RI NSA src/" :) haha
20130906 11:20:18 <sgothel> "cryptoPermissionCheck(..)" .. cute ..
20130906 11:20:18 <xranby> (13:21:10) mjw: xranby, some more background at http://icedtea.classpath.org/wiki/IcedTea_JDK6_Patches under clean-crypto
20130906 11:20:50 <sgothel> is mjw Oracle or RedHat ?
20130906 11:21:01 <xranby> RedHat
20130906 11:21:29 <sgothel> I guess before an independent security expert (not Java related) audited the code .. you can safely assume it all a pile of crap!
20130906 11:22:14 <xranby> (13:21:56) mjw: xranby, I don't think there is an immediate risk. I just think there is a potential for "accidents" with so much "unused" code in the basic crypto provider.
20130906 11:22:14 <xranby> (13:22:29) mjw: haha that patch is from 2005
20130906 11:22:14 <xranby> (13:22:35) mjw: ok, 2008
20130906 11:22:14 <xranby> (13:22:39) mjw: still, 5 years.
20130906 11:22:14 <xranby> (13:23:02) mjw: really, I have given up trying to "upstream" patches to openjdk, it just isn't worth my time and energy.
20130906 11:22:46 <sgothel> jaja .. all good as usual :)
20130906 11:23:06 <sgothel> b/c the payee doesn't care :)
20130906 11:23:43 <sgothel> and payer .. ofc :)
20130906 11:24:30 <sgothel> even a JNI linked-in cipher code would be insecure due to the JVM impl.
20130906 11:24:42 <sgothel> i.e. one could use another vuln. of JVM and replace it
20130906 11:24:58 <sgothel> tbh .. JVM security just doesn't really fit
20130906 11:25:41 <xranby> (13:26:32) mjw: xranby, If Red Hat wants to try I am fine with it. They can consider it their work if they want to (I think I did it originally on my own time, but don't mind assigning it to Red Hat explicitly).
20130906 11:25:57 <xranby> ^answer to the question: (13:24:52) xranby: mjw: is it a low interest of RedHat to get these patches upstream? (sponsoring the work)
20130906 11:26:49 <sgothel> for example we use openssl w/ apache .. then a proxy .. and then comes jenkins :)
20130906 11:27:38 <sgothel> IMHO openssl would need to be hardcoded into JVM .. w/o any possibility to replace it
20130906 11:32:24 <xranby> Transcript from #OpenJDK on irc.oftc.net http://labb.zafena.se/openjdk/log/OpenJDK-20130906.log
20130906 11:33:42 <sgothel> good artifact .. thx
20130906 11:34:38 <sgothel> Hi Andrew .. hi 'mjw' :)
20130906 12:37:48 <xranby> monsieur_max: hi!
20130906 12:38:14 <monsieur_max> how are you guys ?
20130906 12:39:21 <xranby> monsieur_max: Fine i guess :) no critical bugs emerged since the 2.0.2 release, thus we are all happy adding new features
20130906 12:39:46 <monsieur_max> great :) i saw the roadmap to the 2.1 and the ji gong project
20130906 12:40:03 <monsieur_max> big master plan to conquer the universe
20130906 12:40:32 <xranby> hehe yes something like that
20130906 12:40:50 <xranby> monsieur_max: did you watch the siggraph recording?
20130906 12:41:27 <monsieur_max> xranby: yep sure i did
20130906 12:42:10 <xranby> we had some issues with the HDMI switch, during the Catequesis video, sorry for that.. it was a packed show so no time for retrys
20130906 12:42:33 <monsieur_max> no problem, thanks for featuring our game :)
20130906 12:42:58 <monsieur_max> interested people will watch this on our website
20130906 12:43:08 <monsieur_max> did all of you had fun there ?
20130906 12:44:21 <xranby> ah yes :) we had a good time, driving around & drinking coffee
20130906 12:44:48 <xranby> while discussing topics such as the need for Ji Gong
20130906 12:45:20 <xranby> we tried walking... it took a while
20130906 12:45:50 <xranby> next time we take rockets
20130906 12:46:02 <monsieur_max> :)
20130906 13:38:03 <xranby> sgothel: btw NSA in the code stands for NoSuchAlgorithmException
20130906 13:38:05 <xranby> NSAE
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20130906 14:45:58 <sgothel> http://jogamp.org/files/screenshots/printing/test01-awt/ w/ offscreen rendering
20130906 14:46:33 <sgothel> scaling still off .. i.e. even of frame/gl content (offscreen ok'ish - onscreen 'south' region weird)
20130906 14:47:42 <sgothel> plus the 'frame' itself is smaller .. duh ?
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20130906 17:48:48 <hharrison_> I've reallt got to get a better timezone, all the fun happens while I sleep
20130906 17:49:15 <sgothel> :)
20130906 17:53:31 <hharrison_> Java7 u40 appears on track for mid-sept release
20130906 17:54:26 <hharrison_> I finally got my fork of vecmath pushed into the fedora repos, waiting on an update to jogl 2.0.2 to land there, then Java3d should go in
20130906 17:58:57 <sgothel> http://jogamp.org/git/?p=jogl.git;a=blob;f=doc/Implementation/AWTPrinting.txt;h=0be3848ed01c814a92a79261a12f4658557e61c1;hb=4840117d274f9042fc6528722c1af157ad36384e
20130906 17:59:06 <sgothel> .. AWT printing impl.
20130906 17:59:18 <sgothel> ah ..
20130906 17:59:27 <sgothel> very good .. osx / 7u40
20130906 17:59:45 <sgothel> if you have AWT printing knowledge .. maybe you can help ..
20130906 18:00:05 <sgothel> testing GLJPanel now ..
20130906 18:00:05 <hharrison_> Yeah, when that lands we can hopefully shake out the final canvas positioning stuff and I'll do a final java3d release
20130906 18:00:14 <sgothel> :)
20130906 18:02:33 <hharrison_> What's the end goal for the printing stuff?
20130906 18:02:51 <sgothel> errr .. you can print ? :)
20130906 18:03:23 <hharrison_> Just checking, wasn't sure if you had some larger goal
20130906 18:03:46 <sgothel> haha
20130906 18:04:09 <sgothel> Best thing is the TileRenderer* .. we may use it for more stuff ..
20130906 18:04:40 <sgothel> the 'print' trick / issue .. well, I do something wrong w/ unit test or impl ..
20130906 18:05:02 <sgothel> the feature is .. high-res/dpi .. using tiled rendering -> low GPU resources
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20130906 21:51:05 <sgothel> http://jogamp.org/files/screenshots/printing/test01-awt/
20130906 21:52:15 <sgothel> updated screenshots .. dunno when print-job finishes .. files get cut-off 'sometimes' well
20130906 21:52:36 <sgothel> right .. GLJPanel added as well, see git-log
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