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20131017 05:06:29 <sgothel> larger model .. via NIO / java-heap ? do you flush CPU memory after pushing to VBOs ? Do you cache/slice NIOs ?
20131017 05:07:15 <hharrison> Large indexed vertex arryays pushed onto the card
20131017 05:07:27 <sgothel> how is 'VBO editing' working for you ? i.e. updating parts of it .. ? and how do you cache that ?
20131017 05:07:28 <hharrison> We hold very little CPU side now
20131017 05:08:02 <hharrison> Mostly it's pretty standard vertices w/ bone weights, do it all in the shaders to animate things
20131017 05:08:04 <sgothel> so no editing .. I assume
20131017 05:08:11 <hharrison> No editing
20131017 05:08:21 <hharrison> Well...some actually
20131017 05:08:39 <hharrison> But we don't do it particularly efficiently, just rebind a new array
20131017 05:08:40 <sgothel> some experience w/ FBO and FBObject performance ?
20131017 05:08:50 <sgothel> right
20131017 05:09:03 <sgothel> i.e. FBO [re]-binding ..
20131017 05:09:21 <hharrison> Nothing on the JOGL side has actually come anywhere near the top of the profiles for us
20131017 05:09:36 <hharrison> ie.....it just doesn't get in the way, at all
20131017 05:09:58 <sgothel> nice! - I may need to push the perf tools of jogl-demos to jogl to have perf numbers for all platforms/builds ..
20131017 05:10:19 <hharrison> Question: you are doing some of the visibility state updating using a awt notifier?
20131017 05:10:23 <sgothel> some user report claims FBO rebinding might be an issue .. hmm
20131017 05:10:35 <sgothel> yup Comp.Listener
20131017 05:10:52 <sgothel> I realized .. setVisible not propagated :(
20131017 05:16:33 <hharrison> just that easy.....;-)
20131017 05:16:59 <sgothel> you found it ?
20131017 05:17:20 <hharrison> No, but looking in that vicinity
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20131017 07:28:55 <hharrison> Bah! I'm getting tired and stupid....bedtime
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20131017 14:09:34 <sgothel> good morning
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20131017 14:50:58 <Eclesia> sgothel: hi
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20131017 19:11:47 <Eclesia> hi
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20131017 21:17:19 <sgothel> https://jogamp.org/chuck/job/jogl/1112/ <- w/ Win7/8 touch support for NEWT
20131017 21:17:37 <sgothel> https://jogamp.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=862 <- ANYBODY ?
20131017 21:17:48 <sgothel> NVidia GTX550 driver 331.13 - 64bit Linux - No GLProfile ? ^^^
20131017 21:18:35 <sgothel> dinner time .. laters
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20131018 00:09:08 <xranby-64> sgothel: http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-amd64-331.13-driver.html
20131018 00:11:30 <xranby-64> I can try a fresh 64bit setup tomorrow, I got one nvidia card at work that is supported by this driver
20131018 00:11:51 <xranby-64> did the user mention which Linux OS is in use?
20131018 00:12:43 <xranby-64> i can take the card with me home for weekend testing
20131018 00:15:55 <xranby-64> https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/616962/linux/331-13-beta-drivers-feedback-thread/ - contains some notes on kernel patching...
20131018 00:19:41 <xranby-64> fun to see all the regular NVIDIA PCI drivers to also be available for use on ARM https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/533434/linux/current-graphics-driver-releases/
20131018 00:33:42 <sgothel> nice
20131018 00:38:36 <xranby-64> I have been working with an in house ESD immunity test setup most of this week... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLU9SiE9tgY finally got this LCD panel to recover gracefully after getting zapped/CGRAM reset by 5000v electric-fence into the ground panel.
20131018 00:39:46 <sgothel> EMV .. sweet
20131018 00:40:44 <sgothel> not bad ..
20131018 00:40:45 <sgothel> :)
20131018 00:41:11 <sgothel> reminds me of my 8-bit 'gpu' .. it's on youtube as well, I probably showed it already
20131018 00:41:20 <xranby-64> celebrated its success using todays pixel art diary https://twitter.com/xranby/status/390976366977380353/photo/1
20131018 00:41:58 <xranby-64> ah yes you had this nice.. led panel
20131018 00:42:30 <xranby-64> or did you create a video-out 8-bit gpu as well?
20131018 00:42:44 <sgothel> well .. the 8bit cpu was the gpu
20131018 00:42:56 <sgothel> i.e. irq driver .. pushing FBO -> panel
20131018 00:43:08 <sgothel> plus simple 2d (blocks) :)
20131018 00:43:44 <sgothel> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNI-z2hctYo
20131018 00:44:05 <sgothel> so .. our BOF was a huge success .. > 500 folks viewed it 'after hours' :)
20131018 00:44:16 <xranby-64> \o/
20131018 00:44:26 <sgothel> and only in 2 month ..
20131018 00:44:32 <sgothel> fosdem 196
20131018 00:44:40 <sgothel> + 181 (short)
20131018 00:45:00 <sgothel> siggraph 2012 .. only 223 + (267 short)
20131018 00:45:22 <sgothel> very good
20131018 00:45:39 <sgothel> next time .. 2nd tripod and 2 cams
20131018 00:45:42 <xranby-64> btw.. Fosdem Free Java DevRoom CFP now open! https://lists.fosdem.org/pipermail/java-devroom/2013-October/000042.html only one day for the java room this year
20131018 00:46:05 <sgothel> hmm .. Qun was asking for that clam shouder .. :)
20131018 00:46:18 <sgothel> so .. will we have a session there ?
20131018 00:47:28 <sgothel> I will try to make a few more hot-fixes for rel 2.1.1 .. then I can head to JOCL .. oh well
20131018 00:47:59 <xranby-64> I will travel there, we may as well send in a talk proposal
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20131018 00:48:44 <xranby-64> the time is more condensed.. its 25 minute talk slots
20131018 00:48:50 <sgothel> if we are welcome .. :)
20131018 00:49:17 <xranby-64> of course we are welcome
20131018 00:49:23 <sgothel> maybe we can show some aspects of deployment .. and JiGong
20131018 00:49:42 <sgothel> .. workshop ?
20131018 00:49:55 <sgothel> maybe some folks like to have such thing ?
20131018 00:50:26 <xranby-64> workshops at fosdem usually involve setting up a table and standing there
20131018 00:50:35 <sgothel> hehe
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20131018 00:51:16 <sgothel> for sure great to talk in person w/ [pure] icedtea folks re JiGong'ish stuff
20131018 00:51:35 <sgothel> will you manage our session planning ?
20131018 00:51:43 <xranby-64> https://wiki.debian.org/Java/DevJam/2014/Fosdem - Join us for this year's theme: "JVM melting pot"
20131018 00:52:01 <xranby-64> i wonder what they have in mind
20131018 00:52:26 <xranby-64> JVM chocolate fondu?
20131018 00:52:48 <sgothel> The future of Free Java - Experiences with the JCP :)
20131018 00:53:04 <sgothel> I see lot's of 'free' there :)
20131018 00:54:24 <sgothel> so yeah .. Free hardware access and JVM w/ JogAmp and JiGong on desktop and mobile' - me like to be provocative :)
20131018 00:54:55 <sgothel> so .. you commit to drive the planning -> i.e. kick-ass
20131018 00:55:14 <xranby-64> yes yes.. maybe try to create slides before the event as well :)
20131018 00:55:21 <sgothel> good idea :)
20131018 00:55:27 <sgothel> then .. we are in !
20131018 00:55:32 <sgothel> how about MWC ?
20131018 00:55:39 <xranby-64> MWC?
20131018 00:55:59 <sgothel> I don't like the way they promote it .. (ties .. and so elegant .. and important) ..
20131018 00:56:08 <sgothel> mobile world .. let me see
20131018 00:56:10 <xranby-64> http://www.mobileworldcongress.com/
20131018 00:56:10 <sgothel> spain
20131018 00:56:28 <sgothel> yeah .. thats the ugly site :)
20131018 00:56:42 <sgothel> for sure something for your company and ours
20131018 00:56:57 <sgothel> mobile medical .. and mobile .. blabla
20131018 00:57:09 <sgothel> Qun says .. maybe good for business .. but sure less fun
20131018 00:57:25 <xranby-64> workshops at MWC?
20131018 00:57:36 <sgothel> yup .. and/or a demo session if possible
20131018 00:57:59 <sgothel> demo session .. as advertisement .. workshop is our free gift :)
20131018 00:58:51 <sgothel> Call for Papers is Now Closed.
20131018 00:58:59 <xranby-64> ok then it is settled
20131018 00:59:56 <xranby-64> I dont think I will go to MWC
20131018 00:59:57 <sgothel> hmm .. maybe I write them an email .. whether we can showcase our tech (short) .. giving 'em the other videos .. nothing to loose
20131018 01:00:16 <sgothel> yeah, me not so eager either :)
20131018 01:00:50 <xranby-64> it looks like a CEO meeting
20131018 01:01:10 <sgothel> hehe .. my words - we drop Qun off and have fun in the city :)
20131018 01:01:25 <sgothel> you may give her your tie though ..
20131018 01:01:30 <xranby-64> haha :D
20131018 01:01:52 <xranby-64> sure i will brin ties
20131018 01:01:55 <xranby-64> bring
20131018 01:02:45 <sgothel> great .. me downloaded the NV driver .. guess I will be offline for a bit .. installing
20131018 01:02:58 <sgothel> maybe good night .. and laters anyway
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20131018 01:25:06 <sgothel> 4.3 (Core profile, arb, ES2 compat, ES3 compat, FBO, hardware) - 4.3.0 NVIDIA 331.13 [GL 4.3.0, vendor 331.13.0 (NVIDIA 331.13)]
20131018 01:25:10 <sgothel> works here .. hmm
20131018 01:25:22 <sgothel> even though 331.13 can do FL 4.4
20131018 01:25:24 <sgothel> *GL
20131018 01:32:38 <sgothel> http://www.digitalworlds.ufl.edu/angelos/lab/ufdw/j4k/ <- J4K (MS Kinect SDK (3d'ish camera)
20131018 01:54:03 <xranby-64> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBSiiOIEiPI - Automated Human Avatar Synthesis for Obesity Control using Kinect
20131018 01:54:06 <xranby-64> nice use of JOGL
20131018 01:54:20 <sgothel> yup .. and they use it in a transparent style ..
20131018 01:54:42 <sgothel> couldn't find source code yet .. got email from Angelos w/ a heads up
20131018 01:54:59 <sgothel> btw .. shall we hint our users to please comply w/ the LICENSE.txt file ?
20131018 01:55:19 <xranby-64> i got a kinnect camera ... only need the power adapter (sold separately)
20131018 01:55:21 <sgothel> i.e. reproduce the LICENSE.txt .. ? hmm was just browsing ..
20131018 01:55:24 <sgothel> oh ..
20131018 01:55:29 <sgothel> haha
20131018 01:55:34 <sgothel> funny
20131018 01:55:51 <sgothel> windows only ?
20131018 01:56:06 <xranby-64> reverse engineered linux drivers exist
20131018 01:56:29 <sgothel> oh oh
20131018 01:56:50 <sgothel> ah .. looks like regressions are fixed .. build 1113
20131018 01:57:04 <xranby-64> http://openkinect.org/wiki/Getting_Started#Ubuntu.2FDebian
20131018 01:57:34 <sgothel> I will ask him ..
20131018 02:05:45 <xranby-64> good night, i will repurpose my brain now, and make room for dreams
20131018 02:06:04 <sgothel> good night
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20131018 03:57:23 <sgothel> http://jogamp.org/deployment/archive/master/gluegen_731-joal_488-jogl_1113-jocl_862/
20131018 03:59:57 <hharrison> sgothel: which regression..the NPOT texture?
20131018 04:00:06 <sgothel> ?
20131018 04:00:24 <sgothel> oh no .. from pointer event stuff ..
20131018 04:00:31 <hharrison> Ahh
20131018 04:00:38 <sgothel> haven't check for the NPOT query func yet
20131018 04:00:54 <sgothel> i.e build 1113 is back to 9 failures .. good
20131018 04:14:22 <sgothel> we have so many NPOT textures 160x90 .. 697x304 .. they all use NPOT .. hmm
20131018 04:14:33 <sgothel> and he says .. isNPOT* returns true
20131018 04:35:59 <hharrison> sgothel: I've been carrying a large patch locally stripping all trailing whitespace and adding all missing @Override annotations...interested?
20131018 04:36:37 <hharrison> got tired of my editer causing huge diffs on save
20131018 04:38:16 <sgothel> sure .. always :)
20131018 04:38:29 <sgothel> best as 2 diffs ..
20131018 04:38:38 <sgothel> but .. it comes from you - so all ok
20131018 04:38:48 <sgothel> push it .. I pull
20131018 04:39:24 <sgothel> I can check w/ gitk .. (ignore whitespaces) :)
20131018 04:41:03 <hharrison> Oh, it's already 2 diffs
20131018 04:41:14 <hharrison> Yeah, I love that gitk feature
20131018 04:41:26 <hharrison> or git diff -w | wc -l == 0
20131018 04:45:11 <hharrison> pushed gluegen to
20131018 04:45:13 <hharrison> https://github.com/hharrison/gluegen.git master
20131018 04:50:33 <sgothel> why did you remove @Override ?
20131018 04:51:23 <sgothel> stupid me :)
20131018 04:52:27 <sgothel> guess you just want to win the commit master :)
20131018 04:52:49 <sgothel> btw .. so how can I tell eclipse to not do those trailing WS ? hmm
20131018 04:54:13 <hharrison> editor -> save actions
20131018 04:54:49 <hharrison> Made me look to make sure I didn't get the patch backwards -> ha ha
20131018 04:55:24 <sgothel> yeah .. I did a 'git diff -w hharrison/master..' :)
20131018 04:56:45 <hharrison> preferences->java->editor->save actions->additional actions
20131018 04:57:36 <hharrison> I also like to have organize imports turned on...but gluegen would need another cleanup before that was non-annoying
20131018 04:57:38 <sgothel> hidden magic at save .. hmm .. only WS ? will test .. thx
20131018 04:57:53 <sgothel> pls not auto-edit code :)
20131018 04:58:27 <sgothel> even though eclipse is better than NB .. at least last time I checked NB
20131018 04:58:40 <hharrison> Oh, yeah, I only turn on a small number of those
20131018 04:59:24 <hharrison> but strip trailing whitespace is always one of them for me
20131018 05:00:19 <sgothel> like the overide :)
20131018 05:01:00 <hharrison> I actually don't have that turned on...I have the compile warning turned on, and make myself go add it when I see the warning
20131018 05:01:28 <hharrison> It made a huge difference for us having our codebase @Override clean, made refactoring much less error prone
20131018 05:01:52 <sgothel> yup
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20131018 05:03:32 <sgothel> is there a commandline tool ? or perform such tasks on whole project ?
20131018 05:04:09 <sgothel> right click .. clean-up .. hmm
20131018 05:04:13 <sgothel> lets see :)
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