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20131112 08:46:54 <masterzen> sgothel: I will test it here as soon as I can have the time (might be tomorrow instead of today)
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20131112 10:36:19 <sgothel> thank you Brice!
20131112 10:36:59 <sgothel> For 2.2.0 we will add the full EGL ctx creation path .. but for now I guess this should suffice
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20131112 11:15:54 <eclesia> hi
20131112 11:17:40 <xranby> eclesia: hi http://forum.jogamp.org/2-1-3-rc-20131111-Mardi-Gras-RC-td4030585.html 2.1.3-rc-20131111
20131112 11:19:09 <eclesia> I will test this evening
20131112 11:24:12 <xranby> https://blogs.oracle.com/java-platform-group/entry/new_security_requirements_for_rias - New security requirements for RIAs in 7u51 (January 2014) "1. You are required to sign all RIAs (Applets and Web Start applications). 2. You are required to set the "Permissions" attribute within the Manifest."
20131112 11:28:05 <xranby> "Ridiculous that an applet will need signing only for running in sandbox!
20131112 11:28:05 <xranby> Flash does not need that, Silverlight neither! What is the reasoning behind it besides that Oracle cannot make the sandbox work reliably? A lot of very useful unsigned applets (math, physics, etc.) are out there; and they will not run after 7u51 just because "programmers" at Oracle are not able / willing to do their duties?!"
20131112 11:31:28 <eclesia> oracle doesn't have good java developers anymore
20131112 11:35:06 <sgothel> @Xerxes: All correct and I concur .. however flash cannot be considered to be secure either :)
20131112 11:35:24 <sgothel> running errands now .. laters
20131112 11:52:58 <monsieur_max> or Oracle want to get rid of applets :)
20131112 11:53:22 <monsieur_max> "let's make horrible to use, from the user to the administrator"
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20131112 14:24:04 <sgothel> http://sourceforge.net/p/ytd2/code/HEAD/tree/ <- youtube video player applet for jogl-demos anybody ?
20131112 14:25:06 <sgothel> https://gitorious.org/minitube .. 'but' it's in C++
20131112 14:25:13 <sgothel> (for reference ..)
20131112 14:25:59 <monsieur_max> mmh i'm facing what seems to be JOAL conflict when using GLMediaPlayer alongside with SoundSystem. Need to investigate on this one.
20131112 14:27:23 <sgothel> .. I will package the libav binaries for win32 and osx to be downloaded on demand .. w/ a disclaimer/warning like "if you live in .." :)
20131112 14:50:38 <xranby> SoundSystem == ?
20131112 14:59:56 <monsieur_max> something that uses joal to play sound, hold on, finding the link
20131112 15:00:18 <monsieur_max> http://www.paulscode.com/forum/index.php?topic=4.0
20131112 15:00:36 <monsieur_max> it's a pretty neat lib, indeed
20131112 15:01:11 <monsieur_max> but well , for a reason i've yet to find, playing a video while playing a sound results in error messages everywhere and video freeze on windows
20131112 15:01:26 <monsieur_max> unless i stop soundsystem
20131112 15:06:04 <monsieur_max> SO, i've got tests to perform :)
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20131112 15:59:31 <bbbruce> is there documentation for import com.jogamp.graph.curve.opengl.TextRenderer? should I use this at at all?
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20131112 16:34:58 <monsieur_max> bbbruce: like most of jogamp stuff, check the javadoc and examples , i guess :)
20131112 16:50:22 <bbbruce> no javadoc
20131112 16:50:27 <bbbruce> no examples
20131112 16:50:37 <bbbruce> found references to it in the unit tests
20131112 16:50:56 <bbbruce> I have the text renderer working in my own code now
20131112 16:51:04 <bbbruce> I am just wondering what the state of it is
20131112 16:51:06 <monsieur_max> well, you can take unit tests for examples :)
20131112 16:51:23 <bbbruce> before I invest in something that is not (going to be) supported
20131112 16:51:28 <monsieur_max> bbbruce: i leave the answer to sgothel or xranby
20131112 16:52:46 * eclesia uses his own text renderer ^^
20131112 16:53:15 * eclesia but I remake everything, so I'm not a reference for a normal user :D
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20131112 16:59:01 <bbbruce> I am also using my own text renderer
20131112 16:59:40 <eclesia> ho ? you parse TTF and triangulate the font too ?
20131112 16:59:57 <bbbruce> no, because that is not really needed in my usecase
20131112 17:00:42 <bbbruce> I just render and pack all glyphs that I need in a texture map
20131112 17:01:06 <bbbruce> then render quads with the textures on them
20131112 17:01:23 <eclesia> ok, the easy way ^^
20131112 17:01:52 <bbbruce> I usually do things with a lot of text so triangulating them is not really an option
20131112 17:02:08 <bbbruce> however
20131112 17:02:17 <eclesia> I have to go, back in 1hor
20131112 17:02:19 <eclesia> hour*
20131112 17:02:21 <bbbruce> for text that needs to be rendered really big I do triangulate them
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20131112 17:04:44 <bbbruce> but then there is problems with antialiasing being not up to par
20131112 17:05:44 <bbbruce> even with multisampling, so'd you have to do your own antialiasing in fragment shaders
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20131112 19:20:32 <monsieur_max> hop, we got a new teaser for catequesis :) http://www.catequesis.eu/
20131112 19:41:01 <sgothel> sweet!
20131112 19:42:04 <sgothel> pls prep a synopsis w/ 160x[<=160] image for jogl page
20131112 19:42:20 <sgothel> I will update jogl page soon .. w/ eclesia's stuff etc ..
20131112 19:42:46 <sgothel> http://jogamp.org/jogl/www/ <- for here ..
20131112 19:43:15 <sgothel> maybe you can add a JogAmp info in about ..
20131112 19:43:47 <monsieur_max> sgothel: ok, noting this task
20131112 19:44:16 <sgothel> btw .. when I click on your web page links, it always opens a new TAB/page ..
20131112 19:44:16 <monsieur_max> i must fix the email subscribing on the website, the designer broke everything and i did not even noticed it
20131112 19:44:21 <sgothel> IMHO a bit disturbing
20131112 19:45:00 <monsieur_max> sgothel: oh ok, taking note of that, it's true that it's not good
20131112 19:45:20 <sgothel> @all: ordered code signing renewal for another 27 month @ thawte via certs4less
20131112 19:47:11 <sgothel> (IMHO best price .. 319 USD for 2 years)
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20131112 20:46:57 <hharrison> sgothel: have an alternative patch for discussion for bug 879
20131112 20:47:32 <hharrison> Attaching to that bug shortly, still may be totally crap, but survives testing here
20131112 20:48:25 <hharrison> The original patch I put there did not survive testing on Java7 + win7
20131112 20:49:09 <hharrison> Java6 was ok, but it appears AWT focus is different in Java7 and we stopped getting any mouse-wheel events
20131112 20:49:29 <hharrison> New attachment works for both Java 6 or 7 in our testing so far
20131112 20:54:50 <hharrison> patch attached to that bug now
20131112 21:09:32 <sgothel> thank you .. is it trying to move the task to AWT-EDT (i.e. what I was suppose to do) ?
20131112 21:09:59 <sgothel> I will check later .. today or tomorrow ..
20131112 21:10:22 <sgothel> I mentioned the other bug .. same issue, i.e. we need to decouple the threading .. by using AWT-EDT
20131112 21:10:34 <sgothel> other bug: the destroy method ..
20131112 21:11:17 <sgothel> makes sense .. i.e. all lifecycle methods needs to go AWT-EDT otherwise need to apply locking .. bad idea
20131112 21:12:22 <hharrison> Yeah, this is much more of a workaround patch again, not dealing with the AWT-EDT stuff at all
20131112 21:12:33 <hharrison> it's totally a works-for-me bandaid
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