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20140129 08:49:40 <sgothel> Good morning
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20140129 09:38:32 * xranby is working on the slides
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20140129 10:15:34 <qgothel> Ping Xerxes
20140129 10:16:10 <qgothel> When you finish the slide revision, please send it to me.
20140129 10:38:05 <xranby> qgothel: formatting email
20140129 10:38:12 <xranby> sending first round of updates .. now
20140129 10:45:29 <sgothel> reading ..
20140129 10:45:49 <sgothel> freedom page is now a bit overloaded :) - the '4 freedoms' list is taken from FSF ofc
20140129 10:46:08 <sgothel> (IMHO redundant - but worth to mention in speech)
20140129 10:47:32 <sgothel> 'No .. builds' is moved away from the 'FUD' side .. needs to be moved back
20140129 10:48:05 <sgothel> SCC: Yup - sweet
20140129 10:49:07 <sgothel> re SCC: until there is a toolchain passing through a source code hash .. etc, we cannot really be based 100% on the source code, and need to 'trust the chain/people'
20140129 10:52:32 <sgothel> ^^ 'the bill' .. maybe an additional page then ?
20140129 10:52:48 <sgothel> *keep the brain storming* :)
20140129 10:53:46 <sgothel> re layout: we have installed 'libreoffice 1:4.1.4-2'
20140129 10:54:04 <sgothel> (debian ofc)
20140129 10:55:59 <xranby> sgothel: i am running the slides in front my relatives here... i will send in their comments shortly
20140129 10:56:11 <sgothel> :)
20140129 11:43:14 <xranby> sgothel: qgothel:sent in draft 3
20140129 11:43:14 <xranby> i have not added the comments here...
20140129 11:44:24 <xranby> moved no.. builds back to the fud side
20140129 11:47:38 <sgothel> looks like the old
20140129 11:49:41 <xranby> i use LibreOffice 3.5.7.2 ... in any case.. draft 04 is in the mail
20140129 11:59:12 <sgothel> btw: Julien got a jogamp.org account now, and he will populate scm/ardor3d/* .. as he populated deployment/ardor3d/*
20140129 12:03:38 <xranby> that is nice!
20140129 12:22:21 <xranby> qgothel: sgothel: i dont have any more additions for the slides at the moment, draft 4 is my last touch.... great work Qun! Is there anything i can do for the jweb code?
20140129 12:44:01 <sgothel> re jweb: doing some finishing touches now .. still will be dirty, i.e. no proper OO style, but copied classes
20140129 12:44:22 <sgothel> hmm hg -> git ? how to ?
20140129 12:44:56 <sgothel> jweb: I assume it compiles well w/ GNU/Linux arm ?
20140129 12:45:16 <sgothel> firefox demo platform w/o AWT ? Nokia N9 ?
20140129 12:45:39 <xranby> firefox exist for the N9 .. yes
20140129 12:46:04 <sgothel> that is normal armel ?
20140129 12:46:05 <xranby> Firefox and Midori exist for the raspberry pi
20140129 12:46:10 <xranby> the N9 is notmal armel
20140129 12:46:14 <xranby> N9 is armel
20140129 12:46:30 <sgothel> oh .. both are X11 .. hmm
20140129 12:46:31 <xranby> raspberry pi Rasbian is armhf
20140129 12:47:01 <xranby> the jolla is wayland?
20140129 12:47:04 <sgothel> yeah .. dunno, focus on desktop now .. i.e. make it work :)
20140129 12:47:07 <sgothel> yup
20140129 12:47:16 <sgothel> but NEWT has no wayland yet :)
20140129 12:47:44 <xranby> i have a local git clone of the icedtea-web hg.. let me research how i cloned it .. again
20140129 12:47:47 <sgothel> if it would .. it would work, but also needs to add a wayland layer to JOGL
20140129 12:47:53 <sgothel> thx
20140129 12:51:12 <xranby> use the package hg-fast-export
20140129 12:51:21 <xranby> sudo apt-get install hg-fast-export
20140129 12:51:25 <xranby> git-hg clone http://icedtea.classpath.org/hg/icedtea-web
20140129 12:51:40 <sgothel> excellent
20140129 12:51:50 <sgothel> works the other way around as well ?
20140129 12:54:12 <xranby> it should be possible to push changes back to hg using git-hg push
20140129 12:58:04 <sgothel> when I build .. it seems tons of debug stuff is included in output ..
20140129 12:58:12 <sgothel> (i.e. if I run the build)
20140129 12:58:19 <sgothel> magic switches ?
20140129 12:58:29 <sgothel> for configure or setup ?
20140129 12:58:57 <sgothel> ./configure --prefix=/home/sven/icedtea-web --with-jdk-home=/usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-amd64 --with-jre-home=/usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-amd64/jre --with-firefox=/home/sven/firefox/firefox
20140129 12:59:51 <xranby> debug output should only be enabled if the ICEDTEAPLUGIN_DEBUG=true env variable is set
20140129 12:59:57 <xranby> at runtime
20140129 13:00:27 <xranby> have you enabled debug using itweb-settings ?
20140129 13:00:51 <sgothel> no
20140129 13:02:02 <sgothel> still java console shows up etc
20140129 13:02:57 <xranby> sounds od... try remove the ~/.config/icedtea-web or if you have an old .icedtea directory
20140129 13:03:23 <xranby> the java console are opt in at runtime
20140129 13:03:35 <sgothel> ah .. there it went :)
20140129 13:03:55 <sgothel> I still thought it's on ~/.icedtea
20140129 13:07:08 <sgothel> too bad .. no log files are produced w/ trace=true
20140129 13:08:54 <xranby> To get the logs for the plug-in: Close firefox and restart it from command-line as 'ICEDTEAPLUGIN_DEBUG=true firefox 2>&1 | tee plugin.log'
20140129 13:09:22 <xranby> To get the logs for the Web Start implementation (javaws): Launch javaws from the terminal as 'javaws -verbose [problem JNLP file] 2>&1 | tee javaws.log'
20140129 13:09:43 <sgothel> thx .. will do
20140129 13:12:29 <xranby> you may find some logs to be generated in ~/.icedtea/log/ according to http://icedtea.classpath.org/wiki/IcedTea-Web#Filing_bugs
20140129 13:12:33 <sgothel> workspace is git based now
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20140129 14:14:06 <xranby1> http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/freedom-or-power.html <- states how the GPL relates to the Bill of Rights
20140129 14:14:37 <xranby1> "We believe you should decide what to do with the software you use; however, that is not what today's law says. Current copyright law places us in the position of power over users of our code, whether we like it or not. The ethical response to this situation is to proclaim freedom for each user, just as the Bill of Rights was supposed to exercise government power by guaranteeing each citizen's freedoms. That is what the GNU General Public License is for:
20140129 14:14:58 <xranby1> if someone asks
20140129 14:14:58 <sgothel> 'all great' .. but we have to keep it very short for the slides :)
20140129 14:15:22 <sgothel> yes .. you can elaborate on that ofc!
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20140129 14:22:46 <sgothel> slides done before departure: I call this a huge improvement :)
20140129 14:23:36 <monsieur_max> :) nice
20140129 14:23:43 <monsieur_max> good luck guys
20140129 14:24:47 <sgothel> thx
20140129 14:29:54 <monsieur_max> i'm looking forward to hear from this, even if i don't fully understand everything, it's still quite interesting, are any video recordings of the events planned ?
20140129 14:31:42 <sgothel> yup . as usual
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20140129 15:21:57 <xranby> OK, all set, we finally got hotel confirmatino for all rooms
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20140129 18:15:14 <hharrison> Have a safe and fun weekend jogampers
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20140129 18:51:05 <hharrison> sgothel: does 2.1.4 seem like a pre- or post- fosdem thing?
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20140129 23:00:07 <Arcaedox> hello ?
20140129 23:00:25 <hharrison> helo
20140129 23:00:42 <Arcaedox> hai , can you help me please?
20140129 23:01:02 <hharrison> Just ask your question, if somebody can, they'll help
20140129 23:01:17 <Arcaedox> Is there a setImageIcon() method for NEWT ?
20140129 23:04:56 <sgothel> what is that ?
20140129 23:05:10 <sgothel> you can set the window's icon .. yes
20140129 23:05:40 <hharrison> Wasn't that rather recent?
20140129 23:05:45 <sgothel> yup
20140129 23:05:53 <hharrison> As in..wait for 2.1.4?
20140129 23:05:55 <sgothel> so you need to check latest aggregated build
20140129 23:05:59 <sgothel> or that :)
20140129 23:06:08 <hharrison> ;-)
20140129 23:07:05 <sgothel> jweb: dirty business done w/ Makefile.am autoconfig stuff .. having a plugin.jar w/ our very much hacked stuff ..
20140129 23:07:11 <Arcaedox> yeah I got 2.1.4 I think
20140129 23:07:24 <hharrison> 2.1.4 is the _next_ release
20140129 23:07:43 <Arcaedox> oh lol , gimme a sec I need to check eclipse
20140129 23:07:49 <sgothel> since time is short .. I will just hack a demo .. whole thing will not work w/ ole applets yet - need good amount of refactoring time
20140129 23:08:01 <sgothel> @Arc: you probably use an RC .. then
20140129 23:08:02 <hharrison> Or get the aggregated build form here:
20140129 23:08:04 <hharrison> http://jogamp.org/deployment/archive/master/gluegen_770-joal_519-jogl_1214-jocl_920/
20140129 23:08:18 <Arcaedox> jogl-2.1-b1214-20140127-windows-amd64
20140129 23:08:24 <Arcaedox> thats my pack
20140129 23:08:38 <hharrison> Should be new enough
20140129 23:08:40 <sgothel> yup 2.1.4 RC
20140129 23:09:08 <Arcaedox> oh ok so can I just use the method then ?
20140129 23:09:15 <hharrison> try?
20140129 23:09:20 <Arcaedox> kk
20140129 23:09:23 <hharrison> :-)
20140129 23:09:35 <Arcaedox> sorry , I have just used JOGL for the first time
20140129 23:09:44 <sgothel> be aware .. that icon location must be set at startup ..
20140129 23:09:57 <sgothel> it's mentioned in the API docs
20140129 23:10:16 <hharrison> No problem, good luck!
20140129 23:10:22 <sgothel> tbh .. I didn't test it :)
20140129 23:10:39 <sgothel> me was just happy that our logo comes up :)
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20140129 23:11:29 <Arcaedox> oh , can you send me the link to the api docs page for it then ?
20140129 23:11:30 <sgothel> @Arc: if it doesn't work - pls file a bugreport - thx
20140129 23:11:42 <Arcaedox> oh ok thank you :)
20140129 23:12:01 <Arcaedox> API docs link ?
20140129 23:14:19 <sgothel> sorry .. not even documented ..
20140129 23:14:38 <sgothel> http://jogamp.org/deployment/archive/master/gluegen_770-joal_519-jogl_1214-jocl_920/javadoc/jogl/javadoc/
20140129 23:14:56 <sgothel> hint: Property("newt.window.icons", true, "newt/data/jogamp-16x16.png newt/data/jogamp-32x32.png
20140129 23:15:02 <sgothel> thats the default
20140129 23:15:42 <sgothel> -Dnewt.windows.icons="a.png b.png" .. you need to give it a full path accessible from within you jar file
20140129 23:15:56 <sgothel> low-res to high-res
20140129 23:16:13 <Arcaedox> oh ok
20140129 23:22:47 <Arcaedox> I cant find the property method?
20140129 23:23:51 <sgothel> a system property
20140129 23:24:10 <sgothel> either cmd-line .. or before any NEWT initialization .. System.setProperty(..) or so ..
20140129 23:24:45 <sgothel> to avoid security manager .. you may also call it 'jnlp.newt.window.icon'
20140129 23:24:55 <Arcaedox> oh
20140129 23:25:30 <sgothel> jnlp.newt.window.icons
20140129 23:25:53 <sgothel> added this to API doc .. will be included in 2.1.4 - thx for triggering this
20140129 23:26:09 <Arcaedox> thank you and thats ok :)
20140129 23:26:57 <Arcaedox> sorry , can you link me to that part lol ?
20140129 23:27:10 <sgothel> NewtFactory
20140129 23:27:14 <sgothel> use the source
20140129 23:27:57 <sgothel> then you can browse from that static element .. w/ IDE .. call tree .. etc
20140129 23:31:46 <Arcaedox> sorry still lost as to were it is , I'm a quite a newbie with this stuff lol
20140129 23:34:01 <hharrison> google 'java system properties', sven gave you an example of setting it from the command line above -Dnewt.windows.icons="a.png b.png"
20140129 23:34:21 <hharrison> The property you have to set is called newt.windows.icons
20140129 23:34:40 <hharrison> And you give it a list of file names of your icon images in inceasing resolution
20140129 23:34:53 <sgothel> yes
20140129 23:35:04 <sgothel> thx harvey .. me back to jweb
20140129 23:35:16 <hharrison> have fun!
20140129 23:35:29 <Arcaedox> oh ok , thank you :)
20140129 23:35:42 <hharrison> No worries
20140129 23:36:22 <hharrison> It's rather new functionality, if you run into any issues a bug report would be appreciated!
20140129 23:36:37 <hharrison> Heck, even a 'worked for me' would be good at this point
20140129 23:53:28 <Arcaedox> Yeah I tried and it didnt work for me
20140129 23:54:36 <Arcaedox> I tried it in program arguments and VM arguments
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20140130 03:24:35 <Araedox> @sgothel Thank you very much it works great :)4
20140130 03:25:08 <sgothel> ah sweet - what was the problem ?
20140130 03:25:20 <Araedox> remeber , the icon thing
20140130 03:25:25 <sgothel> jaja
20140130 03:25:28 <Araedox> remember*
20140130 03:25:52 <Araedox> yeah , thanks it worked out fine :)
20140130 03:25:57 <sgothel> 1st you said it doesn't work ..
20140130 03:26:08 <sgothel> so where do you have your png files ? your jar ?
20140130 03:26:18 <Araedox> I have been tinkering for like 2 hours lol
20140130 03:26:40 <sgothel> great .. if you don't mind, pls post on forum how you did it ..
20140130 03:26:46 <Araedox> and I put the images into my project but I didnt specify where they were
20140130 03:26:49 <Araedox> and yeah
20140130 03:26:59 <Araedox> I'd be happy to do thT
20140130 03:27:07 <sgothel> great thank you!
20140130 03:28:29 <Araedox> thats ok :) , thank you very much for the quick response
20140130 03:29:02 <sgothel> very welcome - always important to have external testers == users !
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20140130 03:54:06 <sgothel> http://jogamp.org/git/?p=jogl.git;a=commitdiff;h=5a661f4736c6d2e42b7114004a4dcbca3fe3f7a2
20140130 04:05:02 <Araedox> Thanks again
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