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20140130 07:59:37 <sgothel> gears is spinning w/o AWT in plugin :)
20140130 07:59:50 <sgothel> good morning
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20140130 09:26:24 <sgothel> .. with reparenting nice
20140130 09:26:43 <sgothel> ok .. time to sack and pack .. i.e. git push
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20140130 09:43:23 <sgothel> moved: scm/jigong.git -> scm/jigong/jigong.git
20140130 09:51:43 <sgothel> pushing ..
20140130 09:52:23 <sgothel> http://jogamp.org/git/?p=jigong/icedtea-web.git;a=summary
20140130 09:52:40 <sgothel> http://jogamp.org/git/?p=jigong/icedtea-web.git;a=commit;h=64e7dcc21339ae56841f10131a4f8a462454dec4
20140130 10:05:28 <sgothel> http://jogamp.org/deployment/test/applet3/
20140130 10:06:30 <sgothel> preparing jogl commit w/ applet3 tests
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20140130 10:40:13 <sgothel> t-shirts done - will pick up in ~2 hrs
20140130 10:44:33 <sgothel> jogl/newt Applet3 changes pushed
20140130 11:08:37 <sgothel> now: 2.1.4
20140130 11:09:41 <sgothel> @Xerxes: maybe need to add some pictures to the slides for SCC ..
20140130 11:10:08 <sgothel> @Xerxes: When you are back .. maybe you can test (after 2.1.4 is ready)
20140130 12:04:48 <xranby> sgothel: hi
20140130 12:25:40 <sgothel> back .. picked up t-shirts
20140130 12:29:11 <sgothel> @Xerxes: maybe you can build the plugin3
20140130 12:29:34 <sgothel> or use my prebuild
20140130 12:31:58 <sgothel> would need to discuss how to proceed w/ that code .. maybe later or at fosdem
20140130 12:40:48 <xranby> i will run some additional 2.1.4 tests before it is released... found this on the raspberry pi forum: observed some new awt dependency in jogl using jogl-all.jar on the raspberry pi http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=81&t=15466&start=42
20140130 12:41:05 <xranby> i have to check if i can reproduce it
20140130 12:41:20 <sgothel> jogl-all.jar is using awt
20140130 12:41:23 <xranby> he is using the 20131212 build
20140130 12:41:40 <xranby> Exception in thread "main" javax.media.opengl.GLException: No default device available
20140130 12:41:40 <xranby> at javax.media.opengl.GLProfile.getProfileMap(GLProfile.java:2073)
20140130 12:41:41 <sgothel> i.e. the Applet3 demos use jogl-all-noawt.jar
20140130 12:42:01 <xranby> it may be some oddity with the adafruit distro
20140130 12:42:18 <xranby> AdaFruit Occidentalis distro
20140130 12:42:30 <sgothel> would need the infamous test-dbg.log
20140130 12:43:10 <xranby> its ased on rasbian from aug 2012.. thus quite old fork http://learn.adafruit.com/adafruit-raspberry-pi-educational-linux-distro/occidentalis-v0-dot-2
20140130 12:43:45 <sgothel> I tested stuff on raspi last week or so (media player .. cursor) .. all fine
20140130 12:43:50 <sgothel> w/o X11 ofc
20140130 12:43:50 <xranby> ok great
20140130 12:44:48 <xranby> ok let me try build applet3
20140130 12:44:56 <xranby> is there a test applet published?
20140130 12:45:03 <xranby> to test againt
20140130 12:45:05 <sgothel> I will aggregate and sign this build when ready .. for testing
20140130 12:45:20 <sgothel> they already have the 2.1.4 tag in ..
20140130 12:45:40 <xranby> awesome
20140130 12:45:59 <xranby> i dont know of any showstopeprs atm
20140130 12:46:03 <sgothel> I doubt I can hack wayland in icedtea + newt in the last hours .. well :) need to get some sleep later
20140130 12:47:00 <xranby> i am packed for fosdem.. will depart directly from office later and sleep at the airport tonight.. taking an early flight to brussels
20140130 12:47:05 <sgothel> re icedtea: I refrained from changing the whole thing - but that would be the next step, i.e. merge stuff and abandon sun.applet completely
20140130 12:47:44 <sgothel> only after proper refactoring .. it's worth to add the other windowing kits in IMHO
20140130 12:49:43 <xranby> awesome.. my hg git clone was able to pull your icedtea-web hg git changes
20140130 12:50:52 <xranby> hmm configure.ac:3: required file `plugin.manifest.in' not found
20140130 12:52:28 <sgothel> pushed
20140130 12:54:18 <xranby> thank you.. building
20140130 12:54:45 <sgothel> in theory .. it should work on all platforms now, since no more X11 dependencies exist .. all pushed to applet space
20140130 12:55:13 <sgothel> the NPAPI XEmbed is for all platforms .. as I know
20140130 12:55:37 <sgothel> http://jogamp.org/deployment/archive/master/gluegen_771-joal_520-jogl_1215-jocl_921-signed/
20140130 12:55:55 <sgothel> http://jogamp.org/deployment/archive/master/gluegen_771-joal_520-jogl_1215-jocl_921-signed/jogl-test-applet3s.html <- Applet3
20140130 12:57:35 <sgothel> lost of perf. enhancement could be done in plugin .. no caching it seems etc ..
20140130 12:57:49 <sgothel> however .. works here
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20140130 13:01:21 <xranby> http://jogamp.org/deployment/archive/master/gluegen_771-joal_520-jogl_1215-jocl_921-signed/jogl-applet-runner-newt-gears-applet3-napplet.html runs!
20140130 13:01:25 <sgothel> reparent back to browser hangs until TIMEOUT .. due to not reached position .. funny
20140130 13:01:28 <sgothel> nice
20140130 13:01:34 <sgothel> I guess debug is turned on ..
20140130 13:01:51 <sgothel> /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-amd64/jre/bin/java -Xbootclasspath/a:/usr/local/icedtea-web3/share/icedtea-web/plugin3.jar:/usr/share/java/js.jar: -classpath /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-amd64/jre/lib/rt.jar -Xdebug -Xnoagent -Xrunjdwp:transport=dt_socket,address=8787,server=y,suspend=n sun.applet.PluginMain /run/user/501/icedteaplugin-sven/6214-icedteanp-plugin-to-appletviewer /run/user/501/icedteaplugin-sven/6214-icedteanp-appletviewer-to-plugin /run/us
20140130 13:01:55 <sgothel> how to disable ?
20140130 13:02:50 <xranby> i dont see such messages
20140130 13:02:57 <sgothel> ps ax ..
20140130 13:03:26 <xranby> i only see https://gist.github.com/xranby/7eee130a786a88e8eba4
20140130 13:03:49 <sgothel> nice
20140130 13:03:54 <sgothel> so whats your config line ?
20140130 13:04:00 <sgothel> ./configure
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20140130 13:05:50 <sgothel> ~/.config/icedtea-web/deployment.properties <- had to set log/trace to false :)
20140130 13:05:56 <sgothel> deployment.log=false
20140130 13:05:56 <sgothel> deployment.trace=false
20140130 13:06:14 <xranby> great
20140130 13:06:29 <sgothel> a bit faster .. but still hagling loading stuff from disk it seems
20140130 13:06:47 <sgothel> browser back/forth that is ..
20140130 13:06:53 <xranby> need to decouple loading from rendering :)
20140130 13:07:01 <xranby> or something
20140130 13:09:30 <sgothel> hmm .. raspi .. applet3 and BCM rendering ? :)
20140130 13:09:42 <xranby> the http://jogamp.org/deployment/archive/master/gluegen_771-joal_520-jogl_1215-jocl_921-signed/jogl-applet-runner-newt-gears-applet3-special-napplet.html translucent gears is the only one that dont work for my
20140130 13:09:48 <sgothel> yup ..
20140130 13:10:08 <xranby> all other applets run.. awesome
20140130 13:10:18 <sgothel> yeah .. all reusing our code :)
20140130 13:10:28 <xranby> amazing code :D
20140130 13:10:34 <sgothel> the launcher is now as it should have been :)
20140130 13:11:09 <sgothel> are the plugin folks at fosdem ?
20140130 13:11:09 <xranby> lets see.. if i try compile this plugin on a debian armel machine.. here at work.. then it should work on the nokia n9 phone as welll
20140130 13:11:13 <xranby> yes
20140130 13:11:24 <xranby> all the redhat plugin folk usually attend fosdem
20140130 13:11:32 <sgothel> good so can discuss stuff .. i.e. refactoring etc
20140130 13:11:54 <xranby> i can ask on openjdk to check which one are comming
20140130 13:12:15 <sgothel> I have the N9 here as well .. and the jolla .. but dunno .. time
20140130 13:13:49 <xranby> i will try the N9 then before i leave office
20140130 13:13:57 <sgothel> great ..
20140130 13:14:11 <sgothel> I guess a bit too much now to learn how to deploy on it .. :)
20140130 13:14:44 <sgothel> but aren't plugins already working on it ?
20140130 13:14:59 <xranby> nokia have made the situation easy.... they have closed the nokia applet store for new submissions.. the only N9 store that accepts applications are the community run store.. the N) also support adding .deb packages from the web directly
20140130 13:16:04 <xranby> thus if we want to package the plugin for all N9 users we should use: https://openrepos.net/content/basil/warehouse and openrepos or simply host the .deb at our jogamp server
20140130 13:16:27 <xranby> (14:14:48) sgothel: but aren't plugins already working on it ? <-- i have only testes javaws on the N9
20140130 13:16:34 <sgothel> oh
20140130 13:16:42 <xranby> and the standalone appletviewer tool
20140130 13:16:51 <xranby> thus plugins is a new adventure
20140130 13:17:01 <xranby> i got firefox installed on my phone
20140130 13:17:04 <sgothel> and toolchain to compile etc ?
20140130 13:17:15 <sgothel> just copy from normal armel linux should work ?
20140130 13:17:31 <xranby> i will simply copy from normal armel linux to is
20140130 13:17:32 <xranby> it
20140130 13:17:36 <sgothel> ah :)
20140130 13:17:44 <xranby> the jdk and jre installation i have used before came from debian
20140130 13:18:08 <sgothel> nice nice ..
20140130 13:18:14 <xranby> the regular jogamp armel armv6 natives work on it out of the box :)
20140130 13:18:21 <sgothel> have to setup 'dummkopf' later for the show ..
20140130 13:18:26 <xranby> hehe
20140130 13:18:44 <sgothel> we have internet ?
20140130 13:18:45 <xranby> always fun to login on that machine
20140130 13:18:59 <xranby> good question.. there is usually the fosdem wifi
20140130 13:19:07 <xranby> that are known to be "good"
20140130 13:19:08 <sgothel> yeah .. so setting up server
20140130 13:19:29 <xranby> i got a hdmi -> vga adapter
20140130 13:19:33 <xranby> in case of emergency
20140130 13:19:38 <xranby> with the projector
20140130 13:19:40 <sgothel> great
20140130 13:19:50 <sgothel> then we can go display-port -> hdmi -> vga :)
20140130 13:19:56 <xranby> yes.. magic :)
20140130 13:33:17 <xranby> i talked with Jiri Vanek... it appears most of the plugin people will not attend fosdem this year :(
20140130 13:33:46 <xranby> still there is the icedtea team leaders attending
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20140130 13:34:18 <xranby> jvanek: welcome to the jigong osdem preparations
20140130 13:34:24 <jvanek> hello :)
20140130 13:34:24 <sgothel> will setup a chat later then .. ah
20140130 13:34:33 <jvanek> once you have time....
20140130 13:34:34 <sgothel> hi Jiri
20140130 13:34:41 <jvanek> I will be joining the chanell regurally
20140130 13:34:50 <jvanek> At least to find whats going on :)
20140130 13:34:50 <sgothel> great
20140130 13:35:11 <sgothel> yeah .. I just finished a hack to remove AWT from plugin ..
20140130 13:35:12 <xranby> i posed this in #openjdk some minute ago
20140130 13:35:14 <xranby> "(14:26:57) xranby1: jvanek: we have created a plugin that do not depend on awt
20140130 13:35:14 <xranby> (14:27:16) xranby1: all code currently pushed out to http://jogamp.org/git/?p=jigong/icedtea-web.git
20140130 13:35:14 <xranby> (14:27:22) xranby1: this is what we will demo at fosdem
20140130 13:35:14 <xranby> (14:28:00) xranby1: we have some awt-less test applets at http://jogamp.org/deployment/archive/master/gluegen_771-joal_520-jogl_1215-jocl_921-signed/jogl-test-applet3s.html to test with
20140130 13:35:14 <xranby> (14:28:28) xranby1: the idea is to expose the native surface in order to enable hardware acceleration on all platforms
20140130 13:35:15 <xranby> (14:28:38) xranby1: even platforms where awt do not exist
20140130 13:35:15 <xranby> (14:28:56) xranby1: awt/swt/..e tc etc can then be plugged in later on top
20140130 13:35:16 <xranby> (14:29:31) xranby1: thus what we would like to do is to discuss how to best refactor the plugin in order to support pluggable window toolkits on top
20140130 13:35:16 <xranby> (14:29:51) xranby1: jvanek: we will publish videos on jogamp.org from the jigong talk from after fosdem
20140130 13:35:17 <xranby> (14:30:03) jvanek: wou
20140130 13:35:17 <xranby> (14:30:28) xranby1: yes.. its a good time to think about how to improve deployment now
20140130 13:35:18 <xranby> (14:30:34) xranby1: when all aplets are broken due to 7u51 :)"
20140130 13:35:45 <sgothel> hehe
20140130 13:36:14 <sgothel> Jiri .. you are the maintainer of the plugin ?
20140130 13:36:46 <jvanek> sgothel, I'm palyiing around it, yes :)
20140130 13:36:58 <sgothel> I see .. in the logs nice
20140130 13:37:17 <sgothel> So what I like to have .. as if it is christmas or something .. :) ..
20140130 13:38:00 <sgothel> having the UI factored out .. while having one AWT impl for backwards compat .. and the user being able to plug one in ..
20140130 13:38:19 <jvanek> sgothel, I',m lloking into your git now
20140130 13:38:29 <jvanek> it is quite *huge* code
20140130 13:38:40 <sgothel> I am sure you and the others don't like the current think w/ sun.applet etc anyways :)
20140130 13:39:01 <sgothel> I did this hack in ~3 days .. but simply removed AWT
20140130 13:39:25 <jvanek> :D
20140130 13:39:31 <jvanek> does nto look like three days work
20140130 13:39:41 <jvanek> hang a while I need to get some strong potion
20140130 13:39:54 <jvanek> those are havy acts :)
20140130 13:40:05 <sgothel> yeah, I know a bit of plugin .. from 2009
20140130 13:40:53 <sgothel> w/o AWT .. IMHO this should now run on any platform AFAIK .. i.e. the SetWindow handle from NPAPI is opaque across OS ..
20140130 13:41:44 <sgothel> if you are open to such endeavors .. I would simply attempt to clean things up after fosdem since the current code is really a hack
20140130 13:41:50 <sgothel> (my changes that is)
20140130 13:42:34 <sgothel> dunno how work could be shared .. but we can discuss it after such a clean state
20140130 13:43:42 <sgothel> http://jogamp.org/git/?p=jogl.git;a=blob;f=src/newt/classes/com/jogamp/newt/util/applet/JOGLNewtApplet3Run.java;h=465ee4df5ef1475b72abc0314d837abd5b9e24f0;hb=HEAD#l111
20140130 13:43:49 <sgothel> this is how such an applet looks like
20140130 13:45:04 <sgothel> http://jogamp.org/git/?p=jogl.git;a=blob;f=src/newt/classes/com/jogamp/newt/util/applet/VersionApplet3.java;h=90c8c3572ae7d4aa724582a2df1a1bd91356c800;hb=HEAD#l68 <- simpler w/o graphic output
20140130 13:49:30 <jvanek> sgothel, personally I'm open to everything
20140130 13:49:51 <jvanek> personally - again - I have nothing against to merge it into ITW itself
20140130 13:49:52 <sgothel> sounds great
20140130 13:50:01 <jvanek> but please in smaller, reviwable hunks :))
20140130 13:50:05 <sgothel> sweet
20140130 13:50:12 <sgothel> hehe
20140130 13:50:17 <jvanek> there is more people involved
20140130 13:50:21 <sgothel> I know
20140130 13:50:35 <jvanek> but theoretially my and Deepaks (and Omairs) voices are strongest
20140130 13:50:40 <jvanek> O:)
20140130 13:50:41 <sgothel> if in smaller chunks .. well, intermediates will not be working ofc
20140130 13:50:50 <jvanek> And again personaly - I like this approach
20140130 13:51:11 <jvanek> how you called it... :endeavors" :))
20140130 13:51:23 <sgothel> great .. I will start the clean thing after fosdem then
20140130 13:51:24 <sgothel> yup
20140130 13:51:33 * jvanek looking forward
20140130 13:51:41 <jvanek> I hope to read a bit of the code befor
20140130 13:51:46 <jvanek> Sorry for not eet you in fosdem :(
20140130 13:51:58 <sgothel> i.e. we like to have ITW working on all platforms .. etc etc
20140130 13:51:59 <jvanek> It is to close to DevConf in Brno which I prefered this year :(
20140130 13:52:14 <sgothel> Brno ?
20140130 13:52:19 <jvanek> yy
20140130 13:52:33 <jvanek> btw - which platform is currently not supported and you are interestd in?
20140130 13:53:11 <sgothel> the usual suspects (desktop .. win, osx) .. and then mobile w/o AWT, like android, phones w/ wayland etc
20140130 13:53:28 <sgothel> wayland will come next in NEWT .. our windowing toolkit
20140130 13:53:59 <jvanek> I see
20140130 13:54:05 <sgothel> core idea: have it working w/ a core profile Java'ish VM ..
20140130 13:54:09 <jvanek> yah, it gaves much of sense
20140130 13:54:42 <sgothel> a diff. track of ours is to finish the Graph UI .. all in OpenGL w/ JOGL
20140130 13:54:51 <sgothel> wish I could clone me :)
20140130 13:55:06 <sgothel> but if there is collab .. awesome
20140130 13:55:43 <xranby> Graph UI is using the mathematics implementation found inside jogamp to render curves superfast using the gpu.. patent free
20140130 13:55:54 <jvanek> :)
20140130 13:56:42 <xranby> it work great on low power mobile devices to render cad layouts etc
20140130 13:56:55 <jvanek> Well really thanx for effort and hads up. I really pitty tohe osdem absence now:(
20140130 13:57:18 <jvanek> And I'm looking forward for video :)
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20140130 13:57:47 <jvanek> bck again. I had to chnage machine
20140130 13:58:38 <xranby> welcome back :)
20140130 14:00:35 <xranby> jvanek: do your team have a plan what to do reguarding 7u51?
20140130 14:01:14 <jvanek> yes
20140130 14:01:29 <jvanek> We need to implement all new security manifest atributes
20140130 14:01:53 <jvanek> and we also wonts non signed and partially signed appls still keep them running
20140130 14:02:09 <xranby> ok great
20140130 14:02:21 <xranby> keep them running and embrace the love <3
20140130 14:02:25 <jvanek> :)))
20140130 14:02:34 <sgothel> so not doing the snake oil of o' :) great
20140130 14:02:37 <jvanek> killing the unisgned applets is killing applets at all
20140130 14:02:50 <jvanek> although I do understand the reasons :(
20140130 14:02:59 <xranby> i dont understand the reasons
20140130 14:03:02 <sgothel> me not ..
20140130 14:03:11 <xranby> we will propose somethign better
20140130 14:03:20 <sgothel> it lowers the bar to ask for privileges ..
20140130 14:03:53 <sgothel> @Xerxes: I guess we can push the slides on git now .. so Jiri gets an overview
20140130 14:04:00 <xranby> sure
20140130 14:04:02 <sgothel> and/or our wiki
20140130 14:04:09 <jvanek> by not allowing unsigned appelts to run, they proclaimed the java snadbox is not safe at all
20140130 14:04:25 <jvanek> and the theoretical way to hack it is always there
20140130 14:04:34 <jvanek> and they do not wont ot have reposibility for it
20140130 14:04:41 <jvanek> ...
20140130 14:04:44 <xranby> imho. what they should do is to improve how the sandbox is deployes and isolated
20140130 14:04:44 <jvanek> We have one more paln
20140130 14:04:48 <sgothel> but .. it won't make it safer :)
20140130 14:04:55 <jvanek> xranby, tahts what they give up
20140130 14:05:11 <jvanek> I'm afraid to improve it, measnto write it again, like chngae the very foundation of JRE
20140130 14:05:26 <jvanek> you can try to propose to JEP 9 ;)
20140130 14:05:38 <jvanek> ...
20140130 14:05:45 <sgothel> tbh .. we don't want to follow any Oracle path
20140130 14:05:47 <jvanek> The one ore plan - you may noted it on distro-pkg-dev
20140130 14:05:55 <sgothel> no JEP or whatsover
20140130 14:05:55 <jvanek> run in sandbox for signed applications
20140130 14:06:10 <jvanek> As ALL aplets are now suposed to be signed
20140130 14:06:23 <jvanek> we do not won tto provide ALL permisions to any applet pretending to be signed
20140130 14:06:55 <sgothel> well .. don't you use your own sec-mgr already ?
20140130 14:07:02 <sgothel> so .. it's all in ITW's hand
20140130 14:07:08 <jvanek> yes we do
20140130 14:08:35 <xranby> the situation will be worse when people starts to sign all applets and one of them got a bug
20140130 14:09:14 <xranby> then the developer have to trash its identity and .. sign all appletss again... in order to revoke the single applet that had a flaw
20140130 14:09:36 <xranby> else... people will keep exploiting the old signed version
20140130 14:09:44 <sgothel> so our SCC likes the chain of trust .. gpg/pgp and link that to a [source code] repository .. in short .. a self made CA :)
20140130 14:10:06 <xranby> jvanek: we plan to implement a new form of applet authentification
20140130 14:10:07 <xranby> SCC
20140130 14:10:35 <sgothel> http://jogamp.org/git/?p=jogamp.org.git;a=tree;f=doc/fosdem2014;h=9026a88e99a88950dff79be17d5ad980ca6340ea;hb=331a4531b672226fabf358d960f73eced81997dd
20140130 14:10:38 <sgothel> slides
20140130 14:11:00 <sgothel> http://jogamp.org/wiki/index.php/Ji_Gong_Overview
20140130 14:11:04 <xranby> maybe we should change What do u do? -> What do we do?
20140130 14:11:08 <sgothel> http://jogamp.org/wiki/index.php/Ji_Gong_Motivation
20140130 14:11:13 <jvanek> ugh
20140130 14:11:14 <jvanek> wou
20140130 14:11:16 <xranby> at least people here got confused
20140130 14:11:22 <sgothel> the Q is from the people to us :)
20140130 14:11:26 <jvanek> :D
20140130 14:11:44 <sgothel> what the heck are you doing ?
20140130 14:12:12 <sgothel> thx to Oracle .. last fosdem they initiated our JiGong campaign :)
20140130 14:12:39 * gouessej (546051e4@anon) has joined #jogamp
20140130 14:12:43 <gouessej> Hi
20140130 14:12:51 <xranby> gouessej: hi!
20140130 14:12:58 <xranby> gouessej: we are testing teh jweb plugin
20140130 14:12:59 <sgothel> hi
20140130 14:13:00 <gouessej> Sven, when do you plan to release the version 2.1.4?
20140130 14:13:05 <sgothel> ha
20140130 14:13:15 <sgothel> read the backlog :)
20140130 14:13:19 <sgothel> testing already
20140130 14:13:36 <gouessej> jvanek, I hope I'll still be able to run my game with IcedTea-Web
20140130 14:13:42 <sgothel> http://jogamp.org/deployment/archive/master/gluegen_771-joal_520-jogl_1215-jocl_921-signed/
20140130 14:14:22 <gouessej> Thanks Sven
20140130 14:14:24 <sgothel> @Jiri: Is Red Hat in the picture of making ITW decisions ?
20140130 14:15:06 <jvanek> sgothel, partially
20140130 14:15:16 <jvanek> thanx for slides!
20140130 14:15:31 <jvanek> sgothel, actually the RH do not care
20140130 14:15:33 <sgothel> if they like to fund some bucks .. they are welcome :)
20140130 14:15:41 <jvanek> ah :DD
20140130 14:15:43 <sgothel> haha
20140130 14:16:05 <sgothel> thought so .. ITW not helping the server cause
20140130 14:16:11 <jvanek> For sponshorship you must ping dbhole
20140130 14:16:25 <jvanek> sgothel, but still it is th eonly plugin in RHEL
20140130 14:16:28 <jvanek> so yes....
20140130 14:16:40 <jvanek> ah the IBM is here to
20140130 14:16:43 <jvanek> but.. blah :(
20140130 14:17:26 <jvanek> I need to run. See .. eh hear.. mean read you soon!
20140130 14:17:31 <sgothel> that surely makes the belt more tight regarding new authentication features etc
20140130 14:17:37 <sgothel> yup .. great talking to you
20140130 14:17:39 <sgothel> laters
20140130 14:20:40 <xranby> gouessej: icedtea-web plans to keep unsigned and mixed mode signed applets running http://jogamp.org/log/irc/jogamp_20140130050541.html#l221
20140130 14:23:07 <sgothel> ok .. me sleeping now, it was a looong night :)
20140130 14:23:07 <sgothel> shoot when something doesn't work .. will get up and do the release thingy then
20140130 14:23:07 <xranby> sgothel: i wish i could play the gongs for you
20140130 14:23:07 <xranby> to put you in meditational state
20140130 14:23:07 <sgothel> hehe thx .. and laters
20140130 14:23:07 <xranby> sgothel: https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t31/1511826_423562471110685_1011220335_o.jpg <- gongs!
20140130 14:23:07 <xranby> this is how our yoga studio looks
20140130 14:23:07 <sgothel> WOW
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