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20140429 08:03:22 <zubzub> 20:06 <+sgothel> native jar files also make no sense to be in the classpath (no java classes)
20140429 08:03:45 <zubzub> tell that to all the millions of resource files on the classpath all over the world :)
20140429 08:04:28 <zubzub> to have a *something* on the classpath eleminates the need to search for it
20140429 08:04:32 <zubzub> in jars
20140429 08:04:43 <zubzub> it's filesystem location agnostic
20140429 08:05:40 <zubzub> if you don't want the native files on the classpath then they shouldn't be in jars to begin with
20140429 08:06:22 <zubzub> anyway
20140429 08:06:33 <zubzub> since I doubt the native library loading probably will not chance
20140429 08:06:41 <zubzub> and the way gradle works will not change
20140429 08:07:00 <zubzub> how would I best approach the native library loading in jogl?
20140429 08:07:54 <zubzub> (so that everybody that rightfully assumes putting a dependency jar on the classpath should make your program work is saved)
20140429 08:10:06 <zubzub> s/chance/change
20140429 08:15:47 <zubzub> http://forum.jogamp.org/JOGL-TempJarCache-natives-jars-already-in-classpath-td4029804.html
20140429 08:15:55 <zubzub> I guess this mostly answers my question
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20140429 08:52:52 <xranby> sgothel: i will attend siggraph canada souns nice
20140429 08:53:38 <xranby> avoiding collisions with khronos is a +1
20140429 08:58:34 <bbbruce> hm, the bugzilla account creation confirmation email seems to never arrive for
20140429 08:59:57 <bbbruce> me
20140429 09:07:34 <sgothel> ^^ zuzub: for our native jar loading it makes no sense .. guess I was not concentrated enough yesterday, sorry
20140429 09:08:12 <sgothel> @Xerxes: .. great!
20140429 09:08:46 <sgothel> @Brucce: err .. will check bugzilla in a bit .. hmm
20140429 09:08:54 <sgothel> spam folder ?
20140429 09:09:00 <bbbruce> sgothel: not there either
20140429 09:12:23 <sgothel> 10 mails in queue .. 'connection refused', dunno if it's you.
20140429 09:12:45 <bbbruce> is it v[…]d @gmail.com?
20140429 09:12:54 <sgothel> nope
20140429 09:14:10 <bbbruce> what I wanted to report was the following. I seem to be unable to write textures to file using TextureIO when I have a GL3 context
20140429 09:14:15 <sgothel> stat=Service unavailable
20140429 09:14:40 <bbbruce> in the code for TextureIO.write I found something like GL2GL3 gl2gl3 = _gl.getGL2();
20140429 09:14:55 <bbbruce> which I think is not ok
20140429 09:15:17 <sgothel> email / dns troubles .. hmm .. breakfast, then running errands - then me checking mail setup .. hmm
20140429 09:15:25 <sgothel> ^^ right .. i.e. that would be a bug
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20140429 11:30:49 <sgothel> looks like an email problem w/ google since .. yesterday
20140429 11:31:15 <sgothel> Apr 20 15:49:29 jogamp sm-mta[18805]: s3KDnMtD018797: to=USER@gmail.com, delay=00:00:06, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=esmtp, pri=238242, relay=gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com. [IPv6:2a00:1450:4001:c02::1a], dsn=4.3.0, stat=Deferred: 451-4.3.0 Multiple destination domains per transaction is unsupported. Please
20140429 11:32:28 <sgothel> Apr 27 08:06:37 jogamp sm-mta[30492]: s3R66Rh9030484: to=USER@gmail.com, delay=00:00:08, xdelay=00:00:05, mailer=esmtp, pri=211493, relay=alt1.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com. [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c03::1a], dsn=5.0.0, stat=Service unavailable
20140429 11:32:42 <sgothel> googlemail.com <- same
20140429 11:32:51 <sgothel> MX gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com
20140429 11:33:23 <sgothel> Apr 27 08:06:37 jogamp sm-mta[30492]: STARTTLS=client, relay=aspmx.l.google.com., version=TLSv1/SSLv3, verify=FAIL, cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256, bits=128/128
20140429 11:34:32 <xranby> what do this mean.. their certificate is broken?
20140429 11:35:10 <sgothel> the last one - nope, just that .. err .. either we or them could not validate the cert .. hmm
20140429 11:35:59 <xranby> no.. i use gmal for the gudinna.com
20140429 11:36:01 <xranby> gmail
20140429 11:36:36 <xranby> thus i have not recived any jogamp mails during the past days
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20140429 12:00:23 <sgothel> <<< 550-5.7.1 [2a01:4f8:192:1164::2 12] Our system has detected that this
20140429 12:00:23 <sgothel> <<< 550-5.7.1 message is likely unsolicited mail. To reduce the amount of spam sent
20140429 12:00:23 <sgothel> <<< 550-5.7.1 to Gmail, this message has been blocked. Please visit
20140429 12:00:23 <sgothel> <<< 550-5.7.1 http://support.google.com/mail/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=188131 for
20140429 12:00:23 <sgothel> <<< 550 5.7.1 more information. p8si26685247eew.336 - gsmtp
20140429 12:00:25 <sgothel> :)
20140429 12:01:03 <sgothel> @Bruce: I have tried to send you an email via jogamp.org .. and I received the above ..
20140429 12:02:03 <sgothel> and their very unhelpful referenced page .. doesn't give a contact .. 'great'
20140429 12:02:52 <sgothel> from jausoft.com .. message was accepted
20140429 12:03:25 <sgothel> anybody knows how to contact 'dear' google in this regard w/o loosing a whole week ?
20140429 12:04:02 <xranby> hmm i wonder whet happens if i send it to someone working at google
20140429 12:04:19 <xranby> sgothel: try send it to.. ken
20140429 12:04:34 <xranby> i dunno.. maybe they have some internal system
20140429 12:04:36 <sgothel> I really don't bother folks w/ stuff they have no power about
20140429 12:05:15 <sgothel> this happened 3 years ago w/ AT&T server, they provided a nice interface .. so I could ensure we are good .. and problem was solved
20140429 12:05:40 <sgothel> this stupid page .. doesn't do anything, no customer support
20140429 12:05:58 <xranby> i guess the best is.. to setup a smtp server and stop using google
20140429 12:06:02 <xranby> hmm
20140429 12:06:27 <sgothel> regardless of this issue here - YES, this is always best - as I have mentioned so many times - privacy etc ..
20140429 12:07:10 <sgothel> even though .. I have to admit, bogomail doesn't handle all the spam .. hmm, room for improvement
20140429 12:07:19 <sgothel> *bogofilter*
20140429 12:19:53 <sgothel> could only sent a 'feedback' .. oh dear ..
20140429 12:21:43 <sgothel> good thing: fixed the TLS client key entry of above cert validation error
20140429 12:24:22 <bbbruce> sgothel: your jausoft mails ended up in my spam :S
20140429 12:25:11 <sgothel> great ..
20140429 12:25:26 <sgothel> and from jogamp <- rejected (see above)
20140429 12:25:39 <sgothel> dunno how to contact the hidden google support
20140429 12:26:05 <sgothel> so I can only advise (as usual) to use a free as in freedom email service :)
20140429 12:26:38 <sgothel> they may detect a GPG signature as spam - lol :)
20140429 12:27:09 <sgothel> if anybody here can direct me to some google support .. I will try to solve it
20140429 12:29:37 <sgothel> "ppp-50-123.26-151.libero.it [151.26.123.50] did not issue MAIL/EXPN/VRFY/ETRN during connection to MTA-v4" <- even dialups (ppp) have trojans/virus trying to spam .. tsts
20140429 12:35:14 <sgothel> http://www.rackaid.com/blog/gmail-blacklist-removal/
20140429 12:35:23 <sgothel> https://support.google.com/mail/contact/msgdelivery
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20140429 13:01:36 <sgothel> reported .. let's see ..
20140429 13:02:34 <sgothel> "Thank you for your report. We will investigate this issue and take the necessary steps to resolve it. We will contact you if we need more details; however, you will not receive a response or email acknowledgment of your submission."
20140429 13:02:54 <sgothel> Not even a tracking number and confirmation .. oh oh
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20140429 14:48:07 <sgothel> Birds of a Feather Session Title: JogAmp: Graphics, Media & Processing Across Devices
20140429 14:48:07 <sgothel> Date: Monday, August 11
20140429 14:48:07 <sgothel> Location: Vancouver Convention Centre
20140429 14:48:07 <sgothel> Time: 3:00 – 5:00 PM
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20140429 15:55:59 <sgothel> tested jogamp.org MX and SMTP via http://mxtoolbox.com - not blacklisted .. no open relay .. all good - so it's google's problem
20140429 16:08:48 <sgothel> https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/apps/jEUrvTd1S_w <- we have that issue as well "stat=Deferred: 451-4.3.0 Multiple destination domains per transaction is unsupported."
20140429 16:09:18 <sgothel> or better: "google has that issue"
20140429 16:22:52 <sgothel> so it's confirmed .. sometime back in May 2012 Google has switched their SMTP/MX config to non RFC compliant - 'hurray' - case closed - pls use an RFC compliant email provider :)
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20140429 16:45:36 <sgothel> http://forum.jogamp.org/Email-issues-w-Google-Recipients-td4032251.html <- Thank you Bruce !!!
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