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20140508 17:18:28 <sgothel> FF 29's UI Australis violates UI OO, i.e. bookmark toolbar is within (below) the [local] tabs .. duh
20140508 17:20:32 <sgothel> (me probably getting old .. somewhat hurts my aesthetic view .. :)
20140508 17:22:22 <sgothel> (^^ and the default toolbar as well .. )
20140508 17:26:43 <rmk0> updating vm... about to see what you're referring to
20140508 17:27:38 <sgothel> mimicking 'chrome' IMHO is the worst thing they can do .. stupid folks (remove the FF identity)
20140508 17:29:02 <sgothel> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/classicthemerestorer/ :)
20140508 17:34:46 <sgothel> ^^ 'Tabs not on top' - hurray :)
20140508 17:36:00 <rmk0> gruesome shit
20140508 17:37:20 <sgothel> .. to be forced using an add-on .. maybe even review the source code .. well, I could not agree more :)
20140508 17:39:43 <sgothel> about:config
20140508 17:39:52 <sgothel> browser.tabs.onTop
20140508 17:40:52 <sgothel> ^^ req that add-on .. oh well
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20140508 18:36:51 <sgothel> https://blog.mozilla.org/faaborg/2010/06/24/why-tabs-are-on-top-in-firefox-4/ <- well .. yes they have a reason, point taken - even an OO conceptual one .. :)
20140508 18:40:39 <sgothel> maybe it would be a good compromise allowing more fine grained control of the 'tabs bar' and the many other toolbars, e.g. 1) bookmarks bar 2) tabs bar 3) default bar ..
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20140508 21:42:44 <jk4> tabs don't have to be on top
20140508 21:43:08 <jk4> or do they force it now? used to be a checkmark in a menu
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20140508 21:57:35 <sgothel> now it's enforced - hence the add-on
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20140509 02:24:10 <jk4> i grew to like them at the top
20140509 02:24:29 <jk4> i had to do less to minimize the toolbar area
20140509 02:24:46 <jk4> had to do all kinds of reorganization in older FFs
20140509 02:25:03 <jk4> putting the url bar in the menu bar and stuff for more usable area
20140509 02:25:40 <jk4> usually my whole screen is usable. i just have a tiny awesome wm bar at the top
20140509 02:25:46 <jk4> no more than 20 pixel tall i think
20140509 02:25:53 <jk4> okay maybe 32
20140509 02:26:43 <jk4> oh i see you can't even move the url bar anymore
20140509 02:27:27 <jk4> kind of silly
20140509 02:27:47 <jk4> if you kid the url bar before and pressed C-l you'd get the open dialog
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