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20140626 11:21:55 <eclesia> hi
20140626 11:38:46 <sgothel> good morning :)
20140626 11:43:30 <rmk0> lo
20140626 11:48:30 <rmk0> sgothel: in JNILibLoaderBase.addNativeJarLibs, i notice that it iterates over the classesFromJavaJars array but stops if any element is null... is there any reason for this? i notice in the javadoc comment, an array with a null element at the end is passed in, but ... don't know why
20140626 11:49:01 <sgothel> need to check :)
20140626 11:49:08 <sgothel> hold on
20140626 11:49:13 <rmk0> take your time
20140626 11:51:52 <sgothel> only 'user' of null is GLProfile .. hmm
20140626 11:52:19 <sgothel> it's an optional entry
20140626 11:52:32 <sgothel> due to lack of dynamic use of arrays
20140626 11:52:48 <sgothel> we could also add a branch in that method, instead of stopping
20140626 11:53:55 <sgothel> no further deep meanings :)
20140626 11:54:38 <sgothel> (but that using arrays is faster than lists ofc)
20140626 11:58:00 <zubzub> how big is the array?
20140626 11:58:03 <zubzub> 100 000 elements?
20140626 11:58:57 <rmk0> ah, yeah, i see
20140626 11:59:49 <sgothel> you know, I really need a good reason to use high level and high footprint types :)
20140626 12:02:16 <zubzub> I usually google around
20140626 12:02:25 <zubzub> and end up with using a collection
20140626 12:04:04 <sgothel> the ration net/total gets worse for small sizes ofc
20140626 12:04:08 <sgothel> *ratio*
20140626 12:04:56 <sgothel> plus performance .. ArrayList is not so bad here, if no hash is requires ofc - but array access can't be bet
20140626 12:04:57 <zubzub> if it's a fix sized large amount of data that will never have to add/remove, I usually take an array
20140626 12:05:10 <zubzub> sgothel: idd
20140626 12:10:20 <rmk0> i assume that by removing the aliasing, we'll be producing "-core" "-android", etc, natives?
20140626 12:10:37 <sgothel> yes sir
20140626 12:10:46 <sgothel> hence all this crap can go away :)
20140626 12:10:55 <sgothel> hence I love it :)
20140626 12:10:55 <rmk0> hehe, yes, trying to work out what needs to go
20140626 12:11:18 <rmk0> feels like addNativeJarLibs can be reduced to one parameter... just a list of classes
20140626 12:11:23 <sgothel> I recommend do 'remove aliasing' first
20140626 12:11:29 <rmk0> yeah
20140626 12:11:47 <sgothel> yes .. and then change the build recipe to produce the duplicates (only needed in jogl)
20140626 12:11:55 <rmk0> right
20140626 12:11:59 <sgothel> maybe all modules of jogl ..
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20140626 17:20:22 <juank_prada> Jow do you prevent newt GLWindow from being resized if decorated?
20140626 17:20:26 <juank_prada> *how
20140626 17:20:48 <sgothel> we have a feature req. AFAIK
20140626 17:21:14 <sgothel> https://jogamp.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=940 ?
20140626 17:21:25 <juank_prada> I can't find a way other than using AWT Frame and setting the frame.setResizable(false)
20140626 17:21:27 <juank_prada> ahh ok
20140626 17:21:59 <sgothel> if not matching .. well, will be done this year .. not too high of a prio
20140626 17:22:10 <sgothel> but anybody is welcome to add this feature for all platforms!
20140626 17:22:35 <juank_prada> is it something a newbie could help to do? or is it complex enough to be a headache for a noob :P?
20140626 17:22:41 <juank_prada> by noob I mean me
20140626 17:22:56 <sgothel> give it a try .. if you like to dive in .. why not ?
20140626 17:23:18 <sgothel> git, ansi-c .. X11, Windows + OSX
20140626 17:23:25 <sgothel> and java ofc ..
20140626 17:23:39 <sgothel> but not too much ansi-c is required ..
20140626 17:23:54 <juank_prada> well OSX would be the issue in my case, I dont have mac
20140626 17:24:08 <sgothel> 2 of 3 would be excellent
20140626 17:25:02 <juank_prada> I'll see what I can get :P
20140626 17:25:15 <juank_prada> I'll be bugging you from time to time then :D
20140626 17:25:33 <juank_prada> I mean asking questions and directions :P
20140626 17:25:34 <sgothel> sure
20140626 17:25:36 <sgothel> ofc
20140626 17:27:50 <juank_prada> now, I have other question. I just tried my application in fullscreen. My FPS dropes quite a lot (around 30%). Is that normal?. When using GLFW and other C based solutions I actually got an fps increase when in fullscreen
20140626 17:28:15 <juank_prada> so I think i might be doing something wrong
20140626 17:28:57 <sgothel> not necessarily ..
20140626 17:29:20 <sgothel> in general framerate may drop, since more pixels must be filled .. ofc
20140626 17:29:31 <sgothel> if you keep the resolution that is
20140626 17:29:44 <sgothel> so w/ GLFW do you keep the monitor resolution ?
20140626 17:30:22 <sgothel> ping
20140626 17:31:38 <juank_prada> well i think the monitor resolution is adjusted to the window size i create in GLFW (can't really remember right now, I used it a lot time ago)
20140626 17:32:06 <sgothel> you can adjust the monitor resolution w/ NEWT as well
20140626 17:32:19 <sgothel> there is a thing called getMainMonitor() AFAIK ..
20140626 17:32:28 <juank_prada> oh, didnt know that
20140626 17:32:30 <sgothel> you can set it's mode ..
20140626 17:32:39 <juank_prada> thanks, gonna try that out
20140626 17:32:42 <sgothel> you may want to do that before entering fullscreen
20140626 17:32:47 <juank_prada> yup
20140626 17:32:52 <juank_prada> :D awesome
20140626 17:33:52 <sgothel> there are unit tests showing you how to .. 'find src/test -name \*ScreenMode\*'
20140626 17:34:04 <sgothel> within jogl's source tree
20140626 17:36:38 <juank_prada> thankyou
20140626 17:36:40 <juank_prada> :D
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20140626 18:07:08 <juank_prada> yup changing resolution with ScreenModes helped a lot :D
20140626 18:07:10 <juank_prada> thanks
20140626 18:07:49 <juank_prada> love JOGL :)
20140626 18:08:17 <sgothel> great you like it
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