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20140703 07:07:11 <eclesia> good morning
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20140703 07:36:18 <sgothel> http://jogamp.org/git/?p=jogl.git;a=commit;h=d44e8ada30d62149c5d4d4b8fdba7cc33f8c765b <- Stereo API refinement
20140703 07:37:11 <sgothel> btw .. the OculusVR DK1 has accelerator sensors for eye orientation .. I stupidly missed to set the USB device permission bits :)
20140703 07:40:47 <sgothel> the DK2 will have eye positioning sensor ..
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20140703 07:50:51 <eclesia> sgothel: did you put oculusvr binding in a different module ? like jocl/joal ?
20140703 07:53:47 <sgothel> sort of .. but still in jogl
20140703 07:54:04 <sgothel> i.e. it is generated in it's own package w/o JOGL dependencies
20140703 07:54:26 <sgothel> however .. due to time pressure .. I merged it w/ the JOGL stuff .. w/ it's jar file
20140703 07:54:49 <sgothel> so it can be easily made independent .. if folks like to have it this way.
20140703 07:55:00 <sgothel> I will assist :)
20140703 07:55:31 <sgothel> but that assistance mist be like: also being used for JOGL .. new top-level project
20140703 07:56:04 <sgothel> (i.e. only the com.jogamp.oculusvr package then
20140703 07:56:09 <eclesia> just thinking about the futur, morpheus headset, nvidia shutters, ...etc... all have different api and sensors.
20140703 07:56:28 <sgothel> well .. semantically they will be the same .. sort of
20140703 07:56:49 <sgothel> i.e. last commit did a high level extraction of eye params and pose
20140703 07:56:59 <sgothel> both can be supported w/ other VRs
20140703 07:57:21 <sgothel> goal is ofc to have those 'implementations' to be exchangeable
20140703 07:57:56 <sgothel> FovHVHalves <- is such a detail ..
20140703 07:58:08 <sgothel> i.e. for all products using lenses ..
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20140703 13:08:53 <sgothel> @Mark: How could I perform the Eclipse formatting filter on a package or whole project ?
20140703 13:10:07 <rmk0> sgothel: should be able to right-click the source folder (or the individual package) and select Source -> Format
20140703 13:10:17 <sgothel> hmm .. did nothing
20140703 13:10:24 <rmk0> erk
20140703 13:10:35 <sgothel> oh ..
20140703 13:10:51 <sgothel> suddenly ..
20140703 13:10:53 <sgothel> great
20140703 13:10:56 <rmk0> \o/
20140703 13:11:25 <sgothel> but that did much more that I edited .. hmm
20140703 13:11:32 <sgothel> you know .. the 'save as' spec
20140703 13:13:13 <sgothel> oh .. a diff thing in preferences ..
20140703 13:14:42 <sgothel> seems like I cannot disable indent formatting for example ? hmm
20140703 13:15:30 * rmk0 eyes it
20140703 13:15:39 <sgothel> seems like only 'formatting' not the semantic actions possible at 'save as'
20140703 13:15:58 <rmk0> oh, see what you mean
20140703 13:16:20 <rmk0> one second...
20140703 13:16:48 <sgothel> 'Clean up' .. it seems ..
20140703 13:17:07 <rmk0> yeah, was just going to say... think the "Save actions" are basically a combination of the formatter and "clean up" sections
20140703 13:17:33 <rmk0> just spotted a nice "only format the section you edited" in the "save actions" bit that i didn't know was there
20140703 13:26:20 <sgothel> - Change non static accesses to static members using declaring type
20140703 13:26:20 <sgothel> - Change indirect accesses to static members to direct accesses (accesses through subtypes)
20140703 13:26:20 <sgothel> - Add final modifier to private fields
20140703 13:26:20 <sgothel> - Add final modifier to method parameters
20140703 13:26:20 <sgothel> - Add final modifier to local variables
20140703 13:26:21 <sgothel> - Remove unused imports
20140703 13:26:21 <sgothel> - Remove unnecessary casts
20140703 13:26:22 <sgothel> - Remove unnecessary '$NON-NLS$' tags
20140703 13:26:22 <sgothel> - Remove trailing white spaces on all lines
20140703 13:26:25 <sgothel> ^^ testing ..
20140703 13:35:40 <sgothel> Q: Will the 'final' qualifier render everything incompatible (runtime) ?
20140703 13:36:08 <sgothel> (Not too big of an issue now, since we push to incompat version change)
20140703 13:37:27 <sgothel> looks good! (^^ above settings)
20140703 13:37:35 <sgothel> will push settings to jogamp-scripting ..
20140703 13:38:25 <rmk0> nice
20140703 13:38:49 <rmk0> not sure about the final qualifier... i doubt we were deliberately exposing mutable state that's now become immutable
20140703 13:39:18 <sgothel> just the way class/method are looked up .. not semantically
20140703 13:39:24 <rmk0> oh, right
20140703 13:39:26 <sgothel> just in case 'you know'
20140703 13:39:29 <rmk0> i'd ... hope not!
20140703 13:39:30 <rmk0> /o\
20140703 13:40:04 <sgothel> pushed to jogamp-scripting
20140703 13:52:34 <sgothel> [javac] /usr/local/projects/JOGL/gluegen/src/java/net/highteq/nativetaglet/NativeTaglet.java:10: error: cannot find symbol
20140703 13:52:34 <sgothel> [javac] public class NativeTaglet implements Taglet
20140703 13:53:00 <sgothel> err .. sorry
20140703 13:54:29 <sgothel> removed 'unused imports' .. autch ..
20140703 13:54:47 <sgothel> yeah .. have to remove that 'feature'
20140703 13:55:36 <rmk0> erk
20140703 13:55:54 <rmk0> why does it think it's unused?
20140703 13:57:43 <sgothel> b/c the packages/jar files are n/a in Eclipse IDE
20140703 14:01:38 <rmk0> ugh
20140703 14:02:21 <sgothel> updated
20140703 14:02:57 <sgothel> good news: modified GlueGen didn't hinder a JOGL demo to launch :)
20140703 14:06:13 <sgothel> had to 'refine' some 'final' changes for our GlueGen code a bit .. where we use a simple 'sed' like filter to produce primitive type variations of a class .. not a big deal
20140703 14:11:23 <sgothel> gluegen pushed
20140703 14:16:24 <sgothel> testing jogl ..
20140703 14:16:34 <sgothel> would be nice if others may do joal + jocl ..
20140703 14:17:21 <sgothel> how/where to document the settings ?
20140703 14:22:09 <sgothel> jogl pushed as well .. no manual intervention needed here
20140703 14:25:26 <sgothel> joal ..
20140703 14:36:05 <sgothel> .. and jocl - done
20140703 15:18:56 <sgothel> anybody knows a 3d side-by-side video, free to use, i.e. on archive.org ?
20140703 15:38:14 <sgothel> youtube has alot it seems
20140703 15:43:09 <xranby> sgothel: a deecade ago i experimented by letting the brain figure out the 3d effect from a 3d movie by feeding the right eye the same move as the left eye but the right eye had a delay difference of 1-2 frames
20140703 15:43:26 <xranby> 3d effect from a 2d movie...
20140703 15:43:46 <xranby> i figured that the brain is designed to handle any amount of eyes in any configuration
20140703 15:44:06 <xranby> thus if you have one eye in the past and one eye in the present you get 3d
20140703 15:44:23 <sgothel> if moving in 3d space .. like birds .. yes
20140703 15:44:58 <sgothel> so w/ orientation sensors .. head movement, you could close one eye :)
20140703 15:45:20 <sgothel> *iff* rendered fast and accurate enough, I guess
20140703 15:45:46 <xranby> yes you only loose the 3d effect if everything stand still
20140703 15:45:54 <xranby> which it never do in practise
20140703 15:46:16 <xranby> 2d photos stand still
20140703 15:46:25 <xranby> and 2d movies feed the same information to both eyes
20140703 15:46:47 <xranby> thus anything that allow the two eyes to have to different source of information makes 3d
20140703 15:47:03 <xranby> and you can use time as a source differentiator
20140703 15:48:28 <xranby> the brain can also figure out 3d from a 2d movie if it have good bright references
20140703 15:49:02 <xranby> like this http://www.mymodernmet.com/profiles/blogs/3d-gifs
20140703 15:52:13 <xranby> thus use the zbuffer and have 3d without glasses
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20140703 17:09:32 <xranby> http://daserste.ndr.de/panorama/aktuell/NSA-targets-the-privacy-conscious,nsa230.html
20140703 17:10:17 <xranby> Germanys oldest tv channel DasErste has revealed that NSA targets the privacy-conscious
20140703 17:11:09 <xranby> "It also records details about visits to a popular internet journal for Linux operating system users called "the Linux Journal - the Original Magazine of the Linux Community", and calls it an "extremist forum".
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