#jogamp @ irc.freenode.net - 20141009 05:05:54 (UTC)
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20141009 06:36:40 <eclesia> good morning
20141009 06:56:34 <xranby> good morning
20141009 07:00:03 <xranby> sgothel: Deniable Encrypted Message Transfer <- ideal for encrypted wireless p2p communications? the "server socket" is then the "ether" around us
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20141009 07:04:08 <xranby> doev: welcome
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20141009 12:03:10 <sgothel> systemd world domination :) -> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTgwNzQ <- now they do graphics (starting w/ consoled), maybe a new compositor/windowmanager tomorrow ? :)
20141009 12:05:38 <sgothel> hmm .. scary stuff, have to verify whether Debian 8 can still function w/o it .. oh dear, not another search for a distri ..
20141009 12:06:10 <sgothel> optional these modules are, I hope
20141009 12:08:08 <sgothel> jogl builds are more stable than ever .. < 10 failures (1-2..), a little dive through tests, and driver update
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20141009 13:03:49 <zubzub> sgothel: the compositor/wm will be wayland based
20141009 13:04:10 <zubzub> http://wayland.freedesktop.org/docs/html/chap-Compositors.html
20141009 13:06:08 <sgothel> which would be kwin for me :)
20141009 13:07:22 <sgothel> well .. wayland as a modular UI block is for sure not bad at all
20141009 13:07:34 <zubzub> wayland is just a protocol
20141009 13:07:39 <zubzub> it does not define how the rendering happens
20141009 13:08:00 <sgothel> yup .. hence the modular .. and kwin for compositor
20141009 13:08:20 <sgothel> but the graphics init/bringup is in wayland
20141009 13:08:25 <zubzub> yeah systemd could provide a system compositor with wayland
20141009 13:08:37 <sgothel> what a horrible thought
20141009 13:08:47 <zubzub> and you could launch a session compositor kwin
20141009 13:08:53 <sgothel> but hey .. they already added DRM utilization :)
20141009 13:09:12 <sgothel> soon .. they fork Linux :)
20141009 13:09:37 <zubzub> yeah people complain that systemd is large and tries to do everything
20141009 13:10:06 <sgothel> maybe they can call it R[ae]dish :)
20141009 13:10:07 <zubzub> I tell them that monolithic kernels that try to run on smartphones and mainframes are also thing of the paste
20141009 13:10:20 <zubzub> *past
20141009 13:10:32 <sgothel> minix all the way *coff*
20141009 13:10:39 <zubzub> hurd \o/
20141009 13:10:47 <sgothel> can't wait :)
20141009 13:11:59 <sgothel> well, we will see what RedHat has prepared for "us" .. oh dear, would be all great, if the distribution guys and gals would keep an alternative open
20141009 13:12:34 <zubzub> I'm glad distro are finally evolving to a more common foundation of services
20141009 13:12:43 <zubzub> be it systemd or something else
20141009 13:12:52 <sgothel> hmm
20141009 13:13:25 <sgothel> as an option, sure - enforced, not so much - IMHO
20141009 13:13:56 <sgothel> common foundation -> POSIX 'was', still is .. :)
20141009 13:13:56 <zubzub> yeah gentoo offers systemd optionally
20141009 13:14:07 <sgothel> I heard .. guess my next playground
20141009 13:14:26 <zubzub> it would be nice if they could standardize on a package format :p
20141009 13:14:34 <sgothel> SuSE -> Ubuntu -> Debian -> Gentoo
20141009 13:14:44 <zubzub> a commonly accepted way of packaging a linux program
20141009 13:14:45 <sgothel> oh no, I forgot Slackware was 1st
20141009 13:15:10 <sgothel> Gentoo uses source packages .. I heard, not too bad
20141009 13:15:23 <zubzub> they use ebuilds
20141009 13:15:43 <zubzub> which is just a format that describes how to dld, apply patches, compile & install
20141009 13:16:06 <sgothel> also gives me a chance to try Theo & Co's OpenBSD
20141009 13:16:34 <sgothel> sounds great
20141009 13:17:07 <sgothel> like maven from source :)
20141009 13:20:02 <zubzub> it gives you a lot of freedom with what opions and functionality the package you want should come with
20141009 13:20:15 <zubzub> unfortunately with great power comes great chance of broken things
20141009 13:42:08 <sgothel> https://jogamp.org/chuck/view/fwd/job/jogl/1365/ <- zero failures, first time ever I guess :)
20141009 13:43:15 <zubzub> huray!
20141009 13:44:02 <sgothel> https://jogamp.org/chuck/view/fwd/job/jogl/362/ <- Mar 30, 2011 12:06:10 AM (the blue one before)
20141009 13:44:43 <sgothel> 972 tests vs 10795 tests
20141009 14:01:52 <sgothel> http://jogamp.org/deployment/archive/master/gluegen_838-joal_570-jogl_1365-jocl_1025-signed/
20141009 14:02:02 <sgothel> laters .. AFK
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20141009 19:34:13 <Eclesia> yeah, finally free ... what a day ...
20141009 19:36:47 <Eclesia> question : does a GPU acts like a CPU ? is it more efficient to work with a pool of GLRenderable the same way we would use ThreadPool ?
20141009 19:44:33 <Eclesia> rmk0: hi, have you try to work with GLRenderable this way ?
20141009 19:47:17 <rmk0> lo
20141009 19:47:21 <rmk0> Eclesia: what's a GLRenderable?
20141009 19:47:39 <Eclesia> Drawable sorry ...
20141009 19:47:56 <Eclesia> (renderable is one of my classes)
20141009 19:48:58 <rmk0> not sure what you mean by having a pool of them
20141009 19:49:11 <Eclesia> I mean when you render shadow maps for exemple, do you do everything one at the time or do you try to run several shadow map rendering at the same time
20141009 19:49:25 <rmk0> oh, right
20141009 19:49:49 <rmk0> i don't do anything in parallel at the moment
20141009 19:51:24 <Eclesia> ok
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