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20141014 02:54:29 * Topic is 'http://jogamp.org | Hacking 3D Graphics, Multimedia and Processing across Devices'
20141014 02:54:29 * Set by rmk0 on 20130116 23:58:04
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20141014 06:58:10 <eclesia> good morning
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20141014 10:27:40 <rmk0> .o.
20141014 10:27:45 * rmk0 eyes forum
20141014 10:30:04 <eclesia> ?
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20141014 12:23:16 <gouessej> Hi
20141014 12:23:38 <gouessej> rmk0: What is your position about the forum?
20141014 12:24:51 * rmk0 appears
20141014 12:25:00 <rmk0> gouessej: still thinking
20141014 12:25:08 <rmk0> i forget what conclusions i came to last time... was so long ago!
20141014 12:25:25 <zubzub> what's the thing with the forum?
20141014 12:26:47 <rmk0> http://forum.jogamp.org/Forum-improvement-tp4033326p4033335.html
20141014 12:27:17 <rmk0> phpbb has traditionally had a horrible record for security... that's definitely going to be an issue if we're hosting it
20141014 12:27:18 <xranby1> zubzub: discussion to replace nabble with something we can run directly on the jogamp servers - requirements are mail<->forum bridge and import of old threads
20141014 12:28:06 <xranby1> i recall we had some prototype setup using simplemachines
20141014 12:28:16 <zubzub> phpbb is nice
20141014 12:28:21 <zubzub> but yeah security wise I don't know
20141014 12:28:25 <zubzub> I know gentoo forums run phpbb
20141014 12:28:42 <zubzub> so I guess there is probably at least one somewhat secure version
20141014 12:28:45 <gouessej> rmk0: Thanks for the feedback
20141014 12:28:58 <rmk0> will reply to that forum thread at some point
20141014 12:29:12 <xranby1> (02:52:47) sgothel: Now, I can say +1, Our family just has grown by Svenson Han :)
20141014 12:29:17 <xranby1> \o/ congratulations!
20141014 12:32:06 <zubzub> sgothel: first one?
20141014 12:32:23 <zubzub> I have a six month old girl myself
20141014 12:32:48 <zubzub> she looks to play really loud
20141014 12:32:52 <zubzub> in her bed
20141014 12:32:56 <zubzub> at 4 in the night
20141014 12:56:42 <gouessej> rmk0: Please don't wait for weeks to talk about that
20141014 12:56:56 <gouessej> rmk0: I don't want to be bothered about that for a long time
20141014 12:57:14 <rmk0> hehe
20141014 12:57:22 <rmk0> will be today at some point, busy currently
20141014 12:57:22 <gouessej> rmk0: IMHO it isn't fundamental for JOGL
20141014 12:57:32 <gouessej> rmk0: Ok, thanks.
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20141014 12:57:53 <rmk0> and! he left!
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20141014 14:53:21 <gouessej> rmk0: I'm still here
20141014 14:53:34 <rmk0> hehe
20141014 14:53:57 <rmk0> you do these abrubt exits i find mildly amusing
20141014 14:54:01 <rmk0> .. abrupt
20141014 14:54:12 <gouessej> rmk0: Why do you find them abrupt?
20141014 14:54:40 <rmk0> don't know
20141014 14:54:49 <rmk0> didn't expect the spanish inquisition! /o\
20141014 14:55:27 <gouessej> rmk0: In my humble opinion, the change of forum isn't "urgent"
20141014 14:55:38 <rmk0> i don't think it is, either
20141014 14:55:47 <zubzub> but it is visual!
20141014 14:55:51 <rmk0> it first came up because nabble crumbled under load, but that hasn't happened since
20141014 14:55:52 <zubzub> managers love those kind of changes!
20141014 14:56:11 <zubzub> I'll get my coat
20141014 14:56:19 <gouessej> rmk0: and it won't noticeably change the situation of the project, its exposure
20141014 14:56:36 <rmk0> jogamp isn't exactly short of publicity
20141014 14:57:13 <gouessej> rmk0: We won't run out of newbies then
20141014 15:00:37 <eclesia> rmk0: I'm the only newbie you need :D
20141014 15:01:18 <gouessej> eclesia: Lol you're not a newbie and your latest document about GLSL is nice
20141014 15:02:16 <zubzub> I'm a gl newb
20141014 15:02:34 <zubzub> but I know a few things about wayland
20141014 15:02:45 <zubzub> but a bit of luck I might be able to port newt to wayland
20141014 15:03:01 <zubzub> depending on how much free time I will have
20141014 15:04:16 <zubzub> and it will probably on work if you use a driver that supports egl for your gl profile
20141014 15:04:48 <zubzub> unless you want to render to shm...
20141014 15:06:18 <gouessej> We can still use XWayland in the meantime
20141014 15:06:41 <gouessej> Wayland doesn't replace X Window yet
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20141014 15:07:54 <zubzub> xwayland is just being X as a wayland client
20141014 15:08:08 <zubzub> so you're faced with the same limitations
20141014 15:08:33 <zubzub> that somehow what you render must be composed
20141014 15:09:02 <zubzub> the only way for now with wayland without too much overhead, is using (driver supported) egl
20141014 15:09:52 <zubzub> or render directly to the framebuffer without compositor overhead
20141014 15:10:23 <zubzub> ie fullscreen
20141014 15:11:02 <zubzub> so what I'm going to try to do is get newt to talk wayland protocol and get an eglsurface
20141014 15:11:14 <zubzub> that then can be used to to rendering with
20141014 15:12:04 <zubzub> so that means you're mostly stuck wit gl es
20141014 15:12:18 <zubzub> unless your driver supports creating a different gl profile
20141014 15:12:24 <gouessej> it reminds me that Sailfish OS uses Wayland
20141014 15:12:47 <zubzub> yup
20141014 15:12:50 <zubzub> 1.1 iirc
20141014 15:12:54 <zubzub> 1.6 is already out
20141014 15:14:34 <zubzub> so if newt talks wayland
20141014 15:14:41 <zubzub> you can run jogl on sailfish
20141014 15:21:54 <gouessej> I hope Mir will die :)
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20141014 20:23:26 <zubzub> 'buffer for target xyz not bound' and in the call before it I bind my buffer :s
20141014 20:29:10 <zubzub> how well does jogle work with non direct buffers?
20141014 21:17:42 <monsieur_max> not realted to jogamp, but still interesting : http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2014/10/humble-mozilla-bundle-pushes-webgl-powered-browser-gaming/
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