#jogamp @ irc.freenode.net - 20150715 05:06:25 (UTC)

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20150715 06:49:18 <elect> hi
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20150715 07:50:28 <monsieur_max> talking about http://blog.dripstat.com/removal-of-sun-misc-unsafe-a-disaster-in-the-making/ in #java-gaming ... does this impact jogamp ?
20150715 07:52:45 <bruce-> FUD
20150715 07:52:47 <bruce-> http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/3d4sbp/removal_of_unsafe_in_java_9_a_disaster_in_the/ct21zc6
20150715 07:58:23 <zubzub> unsafe will not be removed
20150715 07:58:28 <zubzub> it will become inaccessible
20150715 07:58:38 <zubzub> but you can still access it if you enable a certain flag
20150715 07:58:59 <zubzub> which just about everyone will then enable
20150715 08:51:43 <zubzub> the problem with the jdk api is that it tries to shield too much from OS specific functionality
20150715 08:52:04 <zubzub> and often it's not even OS specific
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20150715 10:13:15 <xranby> eclesia: hi, i am back from my remote island vacation
20150715 10:32:05 <elect> cool! which island?
20150715 10:32:09 <elect> if I may ask ^^
20150715 10:38:55 <xranby> elect: käringön
20150715 10:46:10 * monsieur_max takes note for his future trip in sweden
20150715 10:51:43 <xranby> bruce-: zubzub: Unsafe is used by gluegen src/java/com/jogamp/gluegen/runtime/BufferFactoryInternal.java
20150715 10:57:39 * xranby wonder if BufferFactoryInternal is still in use or a leftover from pre java with nio direct buffers days
20150715 11:04:50 <xranby> BufferFactoryInternal looks unused and good for removal. both gluegen and jogl compiles fine without it.
20150715 11:07:19 <monsieur_max> yeah cleaning time !
20150715 11:09:59 <xranby> pull request sent to sgothel
20150715 11:10:53 <eclesia> xranby: did you find what you were looking for in my project ?
20150715 11:13:14 <xranby> eclesia: thank you for pushing the fixes, I can compile it now and "evaluate" it . no conclusions yet
20150715 11:13:41 <xranby> the project work fine on my opengl 4 devices
20150715 11:13:51 <eclesia> xranby: looking for something special ?
20150715 11:14:36 <xranby> personally, i always spend time evaluate different frameworks how suitable they are to build GUI for my companys blood analysers
20150715 11:15:35 <xranby> currently we are using hardware without opengl 4 support, but i always look what would be possible if we did
20150715 11:17:27 <eclesia> I hope to make a GL2ES2 version for widgets.
20150715 11:17:49 <eclesia> but can't say 'when' :x
20150715 11:18:12 <xranby> eclesia: all new hardware will eventually have opengl es 3 or opengl 4 suppoort by default
20150715 11:18:54 <xranby> suporting GL2ES2 usually involve writing odd looking shader syntax to have the shaders compatible with as many platforms as possible
20150715 11:19:20 <xranby> GL2ES2 is indeed todays sweet spot
20150715 11:19:37 <xranby> that you can support all platforms on the market today
20150715 11:20:25 <xranby> GL2ES3 is likely easier for your porject to support
20150715 11:21:14 <eclesia> xranby: anyway, unless some other devs come on the projet, when I'll start the gl2es2 version it will be useless
20150715 11:23:20 <xranby> sgothel: https://github.com/sgothel/gluegen/pulls/xranby
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20150715 12:38:47 <zubzub> how is this bill spitzak?
20150715 12:38:52 <zubzub> whoops wrong channel :p
20150715 12:46:35 <elect_> bill is fine
20150715 12:46:58 <zubzub> :p
20150715 12:47:12 <elect_> he thanks for asking
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20150715 19:14:13 <rmk0> hm, so we've got things like gluegen and swig that can generate java interfaces to c/c++ code... we've got javah, which looks at native declarations in java and produces C stubs to be filled in there
20150715 19:14:36 <rmk0> is there anything that can take a set of java interfaces and produce the c/c++ jni code to call them?
20150715 19:14:49 <rmk0> as in, using Call*Method() on a JNIEnv and so on
20150715 19:15:48 <rmk0> i just spent a good two days trying to track down a problem that turned out to be C++ passing the wrong number of arguments to a java method
20150715 19:15:53 <rmk0> i don't intend to ever do that again
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