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20160216 08:50:31 <Eclesia> hi
20160216 09:02:52 <elect> hey
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20160216 12:13:05 <elect> today seems to be the big day
20160216 12:17:45 <rmk0> ?
20160216 12:18:48 <elect> vulkan
20160216 12:19:06 <elect> https://twitter.com/1ace/status/699513909531799552
20160216 12:19:30 <rmk0> oh, right
20160216 12:19:51 <elect> also https://twitter.com/renderpipeline/status/699501481632886786
20160216 12:20:55 <rmk0> very much designed through the eyes of a c++ programmer
20160216 12:21:06 <rmk0> performance is all that matters, correctness isn't even considered
20160216 12:30:56 <xranby> i would guess.. two more days.. https://www.khronos.org/news/events/vulkan-webinar 18 feb 2016
20160216 12:35:05 <xranby> there is a 500 users limit to this webinar..
20160216 12:35:09 <xranby> grab your seat
20160216 12:42:10 <elect> julien, can you read me?
20160216 12:42:21 <elect> could you send me a message?
20160216 12:43:03 <rmk0> http://waste.io7m.com/2016/02/16/ssao_high.png
20160216 12:44:20 <elect> nice
20160216 12:44:36 <elect> has that filtering workedß
20160216 12:44:37 <elect> ?
20160216 12:45:20 <rmk0> not yet
20160216 12:45:59 <elect> anyway, here they say today, xranby
20160216 12:45:59 <elect> https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:-l4eivges-cJ:https://www.kdab.com/nine-steps-to-vulkan-literacy/+&cd=1&hl=ru&ct=clnk&gl=ru
20160216 12:46:12 <elect> that's cached coz they removed it
20160216 12:50:09 <xranby> elect: thank you!
20160216 14:19:05 <xranby> https://twitter.com/VulkanAPI/status/699594024198520833
20160216 14:19:15 <xranby> Khronos #Vulkan 1.0. Come and get it! https://www.khronos.org/registry/vulkan
20160216 14:19:27 <xranby> https://www.khronos.org/registry/vulkan/
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20160216 14:22:44 <xranby> elect: you was right!
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20160216 14:31:19 <xranby> khronos also released data format specification https://www.khronos.org/registry/dataformat/specs/1.1/dataformat.1.1.pdf
20160216 14:32:16 <xranby> #Vulkan SDK available now
20160216 14:32:35 <xranby> https://vulkan.lunarg.com/signin
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20160216 14:33:54 <zubzub> it's funny how on #wayland the same enthousiasm for vulkan is present as here
20160216 14:34:18 <zubzub> https://github.com/nvpro-pipeline/vkcpp
20160216 14:34:51 <zubzub> https://people.collabora.com/~daniels/vkcube-weston.png
20160216 14:35:31 <zubzub> https://github.com/SaschaWillems/Vulkan
20160216 14:37:05 <elect> you may want also https://github.com/McNopper/Vulkan
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20160216 15:31:20 <bgroenks> Quick PSA: LibGDX JogAmp backend is available on Maven Central and daily snapshot builds are automatically deployed to the Central snapshot repo:
20160216 15:31:41 <bgroenks> https://oss.sonatype.org/content/repositories/snapshots/
20160216 15:33:52 <xranby> bgroenks: under what name?
20160216 15:34:25 <xranby> bgroenks: sounds great if it is
20160216 15:41:07 <rmk0> \o/
20160216 15:42:37 <xranby> https://cgit.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/log/?h=vulkan
20160216 15:42:44 <xranby> intel support for vulkan pushed
20160216 15:43:37 <monsieur_max> everyone releases vulkan support
20160216 15:44:39 <rmk0> ooh!
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20160216 15:45:35 <xranby> rmk0: it is the Vulkan day!
20160216 15:45:59 <monsieur_max> today, the world changes
20160216 15:46:27 <monsieur_max> well, according to the flow chart, i don't have to care about vulkan...
20160216 15:48:41 <xranby> https://twitter.com/dragosr/status/699620596145983488 <- yikes..
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20160216 16:05:37 <rmk0> can anyone see if vulkan is supported on anything as old as sandy bridge on intel?
20160216 16:06:16 <rmk0> looks like sandy bridge might be one step too old to support it
20160216 16:21:06 <elect> rmk0, https://www.khronos.org/conformance/adopters/conformant-products#vulkan
20160216 16:23:40 <rmk0> ah, thanks
20160216 16:23:56 <rmk0> yes, bit too old. sandy bridge is "Intel HD 3000"
20160216 16:27:14 <rmk0> The core layer assumes applications are using the API correctly. Except as documented elsewhere in the Specification, the behavior of the core layer to an application using the API incorrectly is undefined, and may include program termination. However, implementations must ensure that incorrect usage by an application does not affect the integrity of the operating system, the Vulkan implementation, or other V
20160216 16:27:20 <rmk0> ulkan client applications in the system, and does not allow one application to access data belonging to another application. Applications can request stronger robustness guarantees by enabling the robustBufferAccess feature as described in Chapter 30.
20160216 16:27:24 <rmk0> ♥
20160216 16:27:42 <rmk0> i wasn't sure what level of safety they were going to provide
20160216 16:28:23 <zubzub> great so if you do something wrong, you don't know what you are doing wrong but at least your system doesn't segfault/freezes/kernel crashes
20160216 16:29:05 <rmk0> that's the minimum level of safety
20160216 16:29:11 <rmk0> as in "without validation"
20160216 16:29:19 <rmk0> haven't gotten to the validation parts in the spec yet
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20160216 16:48:22 <elect> is there any hope to have vulkan binding with sven being indefinitively busy with RL?
20160216 16:48:30 <elect> rmk0, could you make it?
20160216 16:48:39 <elect> or want
20160216 16:49:01 <rmk0> i expect i could, but i don't yet know how to use gluegen
20160216 16:49:12 <rmk0> i would also have no way to test the result (no supported hardware)
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20160216 16:57:19 <elect> would it be interested?
20160216 16:57:27 <elect> *ing for you?
20160216 16:57:45 <elect> I mean, have you planned to play with vulkan with java bindings?
20160216 16:59:19 <rmk0> i'll rewrite my entire renderer for vulkan when i have proper access
20160216 17:04:58 <Eclesia> one more image format ... great... we didn't have enough
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20160216 17:41:13 * rmk0 eyes 10 and 11 bit floating point numbers
20160216 17:42:17 <rmk0> it seems like they've switched to using one representation for signed normalized fixed point numbers instead of two like they had been using
20160216 17:42:22 <rmk0> \o/
20160216 17:48:10 <rmk0> hehehe
20160216 17:48:25 <rmk0> they pack the major/minor/patch version number into a 32 bit integer
20160216 17:48:41 <rmk0> major version is a 10 bit integer, minor is a 10 bit integer, patch is a 12 bit integer
20160216 17:48:44 <rmk0> wonder... why
20160216 17:49:11 <rmk0> some semblance of semantic versioning, though
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20160216 21:34:18 <rmk0> vulkan still seems somewhat higher level than i was expecting
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