#jogamp @ irc.freenode.net - 20160517 05:06:23 (UTC)
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20160517 07:03:54 <elect> hey
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20160517 07:21:00 <Eclesia> hi
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20160517 07:39:24 <monsieur_max> hello
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20160517 12:09:55 <xranby> hi all
20160517 12:11:05 <zubzub> hi!
20160517 12:11:19 <zubzub> _o/
20160517 12:11:58 <rmk0> HELLO
20160517 12:12:59 <xranby> how are things?
20160517 12:13:17 <rmk0> ominously quiet
20160517 12:13:19 <xranby> bug 1290 interest me.. that is.. how to properly deal with system images if two incompatible opengl drivers are installed on the same system
20160517 12:13:39 <xranby> happens quite frequently on embedded arm system images
20160517 12:15:12 <xranby> on top of my mind, this happens on hardkernels odroid system images. the recent raspberru pi raspbian system images
20160517 12:18:21 <xranby> zubzub: i got a refund from the jolla tablet people :/ instead of a shipped tabled, therefore no work on wayland support
20160517 12:18:54 <zubzub> no worries you can run wayland on any rpi :p
20160517 12:19:47 <zubzub> xranby: if a robovm fork would support jdk8 compact 1 profile, how happy would that make you?
20160517 12:20:03 <xranby> is there any linux distribution shipping pi + vc4 wayland images by default?
20160517 12:20:16 <zubzub> none probably
20160517 12:20:49 <zubzub> I know the wayland guys are waiting until the old/obsolete rpi driver is removed from raspbian before deleting support for it in weston (the ref wayland compositor)
20160517 12:21:42 <xranby> zubzub: you aer working on such a port of robovm?
20160517 12:22:00 <zubzub> yes in the very little spare time I have left
20160517 12:22:16 <Eclesia> xranby: o/
20160517 12:22:21 <xranby> zubzub: i noticed that you have reviewed all the recent robovm ports to determine which one is most suitable for gnu/linux systems
20160517 12:22:45 <zubzub> yeah
20160517 12:22:58 <zubzub> the conclusion is that they all are more or less
20160517 12:23:24 <zubzub> the problem is that not many people are willing to invest time in it
20160517 12:23:35 <zubzub> and the ones that do want to do it for their project
20160517 12:23:39 <xranby> Eclesia: nice file manager :)
20160517 12:23:40 <zubzub> https://github.com/FlexoVM/robovm-community/tree/jdk8-compact1
20160517 12:24:15 <zubzub> that branch has 0,0 support for jdk8 compact1
20160517 12:24:24 <zubzub> but I do keep comments on what needs to happen to make it work
20160517 12:24:32 <zubzub> as it's most just an exploratory phase right now
20160517 12:25:32 <xranby> so hey at least you and xoppa from lwjgl appear to maintain this and tge MobiDevelop fork
20160517 12:26:43 <zubzub> yeah maintain is the right wording :p
20160517 12:27:10 <zubzub> having an embedded jvm with the speed of objc at zero oracle licensing cost would be nice :p
20160517 12:28:27 <zubzub> at least that's what I'm aiming for
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20160517 12:33:26 <xranby> zubzub: for me the java 6 compatible robovm version is quite good enough to run what I want
20160517 12:35:25 <zubzub> but isn't it limited to android rt?
20160517 12:37:35 <Eclesia> who needs android rt ?
20160517 12:39:00 <xranby> are API's copyrightable in Europe?
20160517 12:39:27 <Eclesia> if you have enough money I guess
20160517 12:41:54 <xranby> zubzub: possibly, however it is enough to run jogamp on a gnu/linux system https://github.com/xranby/jogl/blob/8b1e9185aedc070b5f6cddfe361f54dc5d310eec/doc/misc/robovm.txt
20160517 12:42:11 <xranby> tested here using the last opensource robovm version
20160517 12:43:22 <xranby> the only workaround i had to do was to unpack the natives
20160517 12:43:28 <xranby> #robovm currently fail to find natives inside jars, unpack them
20160517 12:44:00 <zubzub> yeah you have to link them manually
20160517 12:44:10 <zubzub> extract & provide them to the compiler
20160517 12:44:32 <zubzub> 14:39 < xranby> are API's copyrightable in Europe?
20160517 12:44:33 <xranby> or as in jogamps case.. place the natives next to the executable also work
20160517 12:44:34 <zubzub> nope
20160517 12:44:40 <zubzub> and software is not patentable
20160517 12:44:42 <zubzub> because software is math
20160517 12:44:49 <zubzub> so all rules for math apply to software
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20160517 12:48:05 <monsieur_max> hey hello xranby, nice to see you
20160517 12:48:18 <xranby> same to you
20160517 12:48:29 * monsieur_max blushes
20160517 12:48:50 <monsieur_max> you'd be glad to learn that my game is officially released to Mac and Linux
20160517 12:51:40 <xranby> nice ! :D now i can be chased by hungry goats on linux as well
20160517 12:55:47 <monsieur_max> :) hehe
20160517 12:56:50 <monsieur_max> xranby: i don't know if it is of interest for you, but you can put my game in the jogamp showcase.
20160517 12:57:12 <bruce-> monsieur_max: how did you fix the ffmpeg distributables on OSX in the end?
20160517 12:57:26 <monsieur_max> bruce-: had a friend to build them
20160517 12:57:53 <monsieur_max> however, we stumbled on a jogamp issue with open_al , not yet solved
20160517 12:57:59 <bruce-> monsieur_max: can I get/use those binaries? :)
20160517 12:58:12 <monsieur_max> so, the video is played by the ffmpeg player and the sound is played by my engine
20160517 12:58:25 <monsieur_max> bruce-: buy the game, they're shipped with it :P
20160517 12:58:44 <monsieur_max> bruce-: kidding ;) i can even ask for the build steps
20160517 12:59:13 <xranby> monsieur_max: best is to make a patch for the jogl/www directory that way you can customize how you want it displayed
20160517 12:59:14 <monsieur_max> took a few days to my friend to figure out how to build things, it was not easy
20160517 12:59:24 <monsieur_max> xranby: ok
20160517 12:59:33 <xranby> monsieur_max: i have to ask what kind of openal issue did you run into?
20160517 12:59:53 <monsieur_max> xranby: there's an open issue for it, holdo n
20160517 13:00:29 <monsieur_max> it's already fixed, but not in current bersion
20160517 13:00:30 <monsieur_max> https://jogamp.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1270
20160517 13:00:36 <monsieur_max> *version
20160517 13:00:43 <bruce-> monsieur_max: cool, I'd like to use them as part of my creative coding library
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20160517 13:02:46 <monsieur_max> bruce-: feel free, most of the work was too find the right way to compile things. note that the libs were compiled to support webm / ogg only
20160517 13:03:31 <bruce-> oh hm
20160517 13:03:49 <bruce-> I'd like to have all of the support
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20160517 21:30:30 <guillaum1> xranby: welcome back !
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