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20130205 10:03:40 <Traksewt> Hi all,
20130205 10:04:38 <sgothel> Good day to all ..
20130205 10:09:33 <Traksewt> I was wondering if anyone has played with the jdk7u13 just out? For some reason, it doesn't have the fix that jdk7u12 has with the canvas positioning
20130205 10:10:00 <Traksewt> for Mac 10.7+ JDK7
20130205 10:11:12 <Traksewt> http://jdk7.java.net/download.html this one works..
20130205 10:12:29 <Traksewt> http://java.com/en/download/mac_download.jsp this one doesn't work… i don't know the politics between java.net and java.com. i thought it was all one big happy family.
20130205 10:21:41 <Traksewt> so openjdk seems 1 step ahead at the moment, even though their version number is older.
20130205 10:38:55 <sgothel> ah - the 7u12 pre-release
20130205 10:39:08 <sgothel> I guess 7u13 got rushed out due to the security stuff ..
20130205 10:56:15 <Traksewt> damn… i thought the version numbers were kind of in sync (since they are so close anyway).
20130205 10:56:52 <sgothel> btw - I don't see that the 'ea' is non Oracle .. it _is_ as well an Oracle build including proprietary stuff like plugin
20130205 10:57:10 <sgothel> so - they simply messed up the rush-rush build
20130205 10:58:06 <sgothel> btw - which use case (unit test) do you use to show the bug 'canvas positioning' ?
20130205 10:58:33 <sgothel> or - can you pls make one of the many unit tests capable of showing this bug ?
20130205 10:59:28 <sgothel> b/c we have a osx/jre7 node ready to run - and it exposes many errors and even freezes the tests .. hence disabled for now
20130205 10:59:58 <sgothel> .. even the SingletonLock using sockets behaves pretty much erratic and slow :(
20130205 11:00:21 <sgothel> (which we use to only have one UI unit test run on the machine - while many nodes compete for it)
20130205 11:02:58 <Traksewt> hey
20130205 11:03:11 <Traksewt> Because I'm using J3D, it makes it complex to make a unit test.
20130205 11:03:47 <Traksewt> I actually started trying to make a stripped down version, doing a trivial problem that failed (using J3D) and using Emma code coverage to strip out all the unused code.
20130205 11:04:22 <Traksewt> I spent half a day on it, then IM posted the latest change set, that worked for me, so i didn't go further on the unit test.
20130205 11:06:24 <Traksewt> Would J3D ever have their own unit tests?
20130205 11:12:52 <sgothel> You have to discuss this w/ Harvey and Julien ..
20130205 11:13:10 <sgothel> However - if you are able to produce such a bug w/ JOGL itself - I love to fix it.
20130205 11:13:49 <sgothel> Maybe it's a simple issue w/ J3D GLCanvas use .. if not, it should be reproducible w/ our GLCanvas itself.
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20130205 11:14:38 <Traksewt> I thought J3D didn't use GLCanvas, but it made its own through Canvas3D
20130205 11:15:25 <sgothel> well .. this is just brainstorming - so if you can clarify this w/ J3D that would be nice (AFAIK their were using derivation or inner GLCanvas .. but dunno know)
20130205 11:15:38 <Traksewt> I made the Canvas3D inherit from GLCanvas instead of Canvas, but it only used a few methods from it…the painting was from Canvas3D
20130205 11:16:02 <Traksewt> that isn't checked in, and IM's fixes don't need that.
20130205 11:16:13 <sgothel> again - the best path would be to reproduce it w/ GLCanvas itself ..
20130205 11:16:39 <sgothel> i.e. remove dependencies and make my life as easy as possible :)
20130205 11:17:03 <xranby1> I published the slides we used at fosdem 13 so that people can enjoy and remember the love while we prepare the video and sync gits http://labb.zafena.se/jogamp/fosdem13/jogamp-fosdem2013.pdf
20130205 11:17:31 <sgothel> arg .. but they included other stuff ..
20130205 11:17:44 <sgothel> good morning .. reading your email ..
20130205 11:17:44 <xranby1> sure,, i have looked throught he backup slides they are ok
20130205 11:18:03 <xranby1> and actually quite fun to read if you missed the live demo
20130205 11:18:10 <sgothel> pls publish on jogamp.org .. I merge
20130205 11:18:20 <Traksewt> ok cool… to repro it using GLCanvas, there will be quite a bit of work making J3D use the proper GLCanvas rendering… I'd love that to happen, the J3D is overkill, doing its own thing.
20130205 11:19:11 <sgothel> @Xerxes: jogamp.org slides - me editing the video now :)
20130205 11:19:36 * xranby1 is checking out jogamp.org git
20130205 11:20:00 <xranby1> i will publish both the pdf and the odf?
20130205 11:20:06 <sgothel> Put it above SIGGRAPH .. and one static page like SIGGRAPH 2012
20130205 11:20:10 <sgothel> yes
20130205 11:20:31 <sgothel> only link to the pdf though :)
20130205 11:20:46 <sgothel> http://jogamp.org/doc/siggraph2012/ like this pls - I do video now, already transcoded
20130205 11:20:52 <sgothel> now .. editing
20130205 11:49:35 <sgothel> @Xerxes: How to fetch libgdx for amd64 .. the native libs ?
20130205 11:49:57 <sgothel> (recorded screencasts from jme3 and jake2 demos for quality ..)
20130205 11:50:19 <xranby1> sgothel: pull request done
20130205 11:50:24 <sgothel> thx
20130205 11:51:08 <xranby1> (12:49:35) sgothel: @Xerxes: How to fetch libgdx for amd64 .. the native libs ? <- http://code.google.com/p/libgdx/downloads/list
20130205 11:51:32 <xranby1> download libgdx 0.9.8
20130205 11:52:25 <sgothel> have you checked html 'compliance' css/html ?
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20130205 11:57:59 <xranby> 20130205 11:52:25 <sgothel> have you checked html 'compliance' css/html ? <--- no sorry
20130205 11:58:10 <xranby> :s
20130205 11:58:20 <sgothel> will do in a sec :)
20130205 11:58:48 <xranby> i left the video in but commented out to ease your integration
20130205 11:59:08 <sgothel> yeah :) .. marked it as 'comming up' :)
20130205 11:59:31 <xranby> is there any doc master page?
20130205 11:59:33 <xranby> the wiki?
20130205 11:59:33 <sgothel> always good to have templates :)
20130205 11:59:56 <sgothel> added it in jogamp.org (pushing now)
20130205 11:59:59 <xranby> ah the fist page
20130205 12:00:10 <xranby> i have not updated the jogamp.org mainpage
20130205 12:00:14 <sgothel> I know
20130205 12:00:59 <xranby> i will put a forward on the link on my site to the complete location when done
20130205 12:01:04 <xranby> to direct twitter users etc
20130205 12:01:29 <sgothel> yes .. better than intercepting our valuable traffic :)
20130205 12:01:37 <xranby> :)
20130205 12:01:46 <xranby> the traffiis marketing i agree
20130205 12:02:05 <xranby> Voyeurism - 2013 here we go
20130205 12:02:50 <xranby> afk for a while now
20130205 12:03:23 <sgothel> so .. if you read my other email regarding gplv2 .. is it true or not .. that GPLv2 + OpenJDK would be enough? IMHO we really would need a statement ..
20130205 12:03:52 <sgothel> b/c w/ all the TCK binary crap - we are lost due to patent issues - obeying Oracle's law :)
20130205 12:08:28 <sgothel> http://jogamp.org/doc/fosdem2013/ .. is up
20130205 12:08:58 <sgothel> 1 bug though .. didn't escape '&' :)
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20130205 12:10:48 <sgothel> fixed ..
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20130205 16:51:14 <sgothel> @Xerxes: the demos ..
20130205 16:51:23 <sgothel> at fosdem: jake2 -> ac100
20130205 16:51:34 <sgothel> libgdx + video -> rasppi ?
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20130205 17:33:39 <sgothel> rendering teaser .. ~5min
20130205 17:53:15 <sgothel> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQUvzr3HVuc&feature=youtu.be
20130205 17:53:43 <sgothel> http://youtu.be/SQUvzr3HVuc
20130205 18:01:06 <sgothel> .. choose 720p HD
20130205 18:07:32 <rmk0> nice
20130205 18:08:55 <rmk0> am quite anxious to see that
20130205 18:09:55 <sgothel> https://vimeo.com/58993701 in 44min .. youtube is available already
20130205 18:10:52 <rmk0> i'll download and watch it later on
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20130205 21:35:00 <sgothel> full video edited, now rendering (30min) .. then uploading it
20130205 21:38:03 <sgothel> I had to add a low-pass filter again, since we had lots of noise - next time we should have a mic on stage
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