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20131102 09:19:51 <bbbruce> sgothel: (late reply) the OS is windows 7
20131102 09:20:21 <sgothel> Good morning early and late birds here
20131102 09:20:53 <sgothel> @Bruce: which bug ?
20131102 09:22:26 <bbbruce> sgothel: where creating a window on the secondary adapter results in a GLException with the message that the context (0x20000) cannot be made current
20131102 09:22:43 <bbbruce> this only happens half of the times
20131102 09:22:49 <sgothel> that is surely odd ..
20131102 09:23:04 <sgothel> I tested dual monitor setup w/o problems .. a while ago Win7 incl.
20131102 09:23:34 <sgothel> Win7 .. it's always a 'big desktop' mode ..
20131102 09:23:46 <sgothel> oh .. 2nd GPU ?
20131102 09:24:01 <bbbruce> the multiple monitor code seems to have a bit more problems for me btw
20131102 09:24:09 <bbbruce> yes, I have two HD7870 adapters in this machine
20131102 09:24:17 <bbbruce> with 4 displays on each
20131102 09:24:40 <sgothel> can you please make a new bug report on our bugzilla w/ all available details .. i.e. stack trace .. mention NEWT or AWT .. etc
20131102 09:25:04 <sgothel> so the make current doesn't work ?
20131102 09:25:28 <sgothel> will review your bug report .. w/ details .. maybe we need to be more .. err .. 'tolerant'
20131102 09:25:56 <sgothel> yes .. haven't tested w/ 2 GPUs here
20131102 09:26:04 <bbbruce> it is right after I start the FPSAnimtor
20131102 09:26:10 <sgothel> in theory it shall not matter .. but well
20131102 09:26:22 <bbbruce> I will make the bug report
20131102 09:26:25 <sgothel> so 1st display .. ctx creation
20131102 09:26:42 <sgothel> pls make a bug report w/ all debug properties enabled .. and use latest JOGL 2.1.2
20131102 09:26:49 <bbbruce> ok
20131102 09:26:56 <bbbruce> another problem that I seem to have on Windows7 installs
20131102 09:26:58 <sgothel> (see wiki FAQ .. also add the test_dbg.log)
20131102 09:27:17 <sgothel> which is ?
20131102 09:27:18 <bbbruce> that window creation seems to take longer with the number of displays connected to the machine
20131102 09:27:32 <bbbruce> for example, on this same machine here
20131102 09:27:59 <bbbruce> when I have 1 display connected, instant. 2 displays a bit slower, 3 displays it start taking seconds, 4.. 10 seconds. .. 8, 5 minutes
20131102 09:28:06 <sgothel> longer .. like more than a second .. noticable ?
20131102 09:28:26 <sgothel> instant is the desired time .. indeed.
20131102 09:28:33 <sgothel> wow
20131102 09:28:48 <sgothel> holy moly
20131102 09:29:08 <sgothel> if you don't mind and make a perf. analysis .. i.e. via visualvm ..
20131102 09:29:31 <sgothel> you need to pause until you start sampling/perf ..
20131102 09:29:41 <sgothel> maybe profiling (more accurate)
20131102 09:30:06 <sgothel> short story: especially on windows .. there is no difference really in big-desktop
20131102 09:30:22 <sgothel> since the API makes you believe it's one ..
20131102 09:30:38 <sgothel> so dunno what query we perform takes so long
20131102 09:30:45 <sgothel> profiling will tell us
20131102 09:31:03 <sgothel> same 2x AMD GPU w/ win7 ..hmm
20131102 09:31:27 <bbbruce> added to this is that when I use AMD eyefinity I can reduce the time it takes to open the window
20131102 09:31:43 <sgothel> what the heck is that feature ?
20131102 09:31:53 <bbbruce> eyefinity allows you to group displays into a single display
20131102 09:32:13 <sgothel> that should be the default on windows .. i.e. what I was referring to 'big desktop'
20131102 09:32:15 <bbbruce> so windows now reports that istead of 8 displays there are just two very large displays
20131102 09:32:48 <sgothel> AFAIK only monitor query happens in NEWT/Screen .. for all monitors ..
20131102 09:33:03 <sgothel> on old X11 code .. I remember we had such issues
20131102 09:33:13 <sgothel> (no more though)
20131102 09:33:24 <sgothel> are you a developer ?
20131102 09:33:41 <sgothel> i.e. maybe you can fix this .. since you have access .. (C code and java involved)
20131102 09:34:10 <sgothel> otherwise .. hmm .. ssh access for me to a machine ? (I use cygwin sshd on our nodes)
20131102 09:34:41 <sgothel> we have documents in repo jogamp-scripting
20131102 09:35:30 <bbbruce> I am a developer, but currently on really tight deadlines
20131102 09:36:06 <sgothel> we have to find a new word for 'deadlines' - so negative .. and we always are in-between them :)
20131102 09:36:11 <sgothel> 'happyline'
20131102 09:36:36 <bbbruce> haha
20131102 09:36:36 <sgothel> 'delivery' so procreational :)
20131102 09:37:13 <sgothel> so I guess ssh access would be best
20131102 09:37:55 <sgothel> I assume a company behind it ? have we listed your great project already ?
20131102 09:38:24 <bbbruce> there is a company behind it, LUSTlab
20131102 09:38:44 <bbbruce> I have used jogl for a number of interesting interactive installations now
20131102 09:38:45 <sgothel> then I would call it 'a delivery with lust' :)
20131102 09:40:17 <sgothel> http://jogamp.org/git/?p=jogamp-scripting.git;a=tree;f=jenkins-server-slave-setup/cygwin-sshd;h=43950cf6c6c499dbd7aab137c827c158e0f81ba0;hb=HEAD
20131102 09:41:12 <sgothel> http://lustlab.net/ nice .. any 'free software' there to share as well ?
20131102 09:43:07 <sgothel> http://jogamp.org/jogl/www/ <- if you have something for this site ..
20131102 09:44:04 <bbbruce> not yet, but it has always been on my mind to open up parts of our stack (which is mostly built and used in house now)
20131102 09:46:23 <sgothel> if we go the ssh route .. you should setup machine to be able to build jogl .. etc (wiki howto-build, or static doc in jogl)
20131102 09:46:59 <bbbruce> ok, I try to see if I can wedge that into my schedule this weekend
20131102 09:47:08 <sgothel> or sponsor 2 cards maybe w/ another win7 license .. dunno .. have to think
20131102 09:47:42 <bbbruce> I will at least try to make the perf analysis
20131102 09:47:56 <sgothel> yeah .. that will help ofc
20131102 09:48:08 <bbbruce> the machine is now configured such that things work, it is going to be installed in the exhibition space monday so things are a bit tight :(
20131102 09:48:26 <sgothel> ahem
20131102 09:49:40 <sgothel> jogamp.newt.driver.windows.ScreenDriver.collectNativeMonitorModesAndDevicesImpl(..) is my best bet ..
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