#jogamp @ irc.freenode.net - 20150915 05:05:10 (UTC)
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20150915 06:13:19 <xranby_f22> hi all
20150915 06:17:19 <xranby_f22> fun fact: jogamp jogl runs out of the box on the first netbook the iconic "asus eee pc 700 2g surf"
20150915 06:19:10 <xranby_f22> from 2007
20150915 06:20:31 <xranby_f22> this device uses OpenGL 1.3 without shaders
20150915 06:26:53 * xranby_f22 is amazed that the dynaic linking done in jogamp allows such backward compatibility
20150915 06:28:43 * xranby_f22 tests on exotic platforms to uncover exoric cornercases.. brb filing bugreport
20150915 06:29:23 <xranby_f22> something odd is happening during window termination on this device + os
20150915 06:34:40 <xranby_f22> (a glXMakeCurrentReadSGI during X11GLXDrawableFactory implementation of SharedResourceRunner.releaseSharedResources() -> GLContextImpl.destroy() -> makeCurrent() -> GLX_dispatch_1glXMakeContextCurrent0() -> libGL glXMakeCurrentReadSGI caused a sigsegv )
20150915 06:37:52 <xranby_f22> this in turn was triggered by using the firefox browser, running the applet at http://jogamp.org/deployment/archive/master/gluegen_886-joal_612-jogl_1433-jocl_1079-signed/jogl-applet-version-napplet.html and exiting the page
20150915 06:39:54 <xranby_f22> appears deterministic, happens every time i do it on this machine
20150915 06:41:40 <xranby_f22> the opengl driver has quite a lot of quirks (known bugs)
20150915 06:46:22 <xranby_f22> [NoDoubleBufferedPBuffer, NoSetSwapIntervalPostRetarget, NoSurfacelessCtx]
20150915 06:53:05 <elect> hi
20150915 06:53:36 <elect> I had that eee, xranby_f22
20150915 06:55:28 <xranby_f22> elect: i found it in my closet today. it is actually perfect for my daughter, this device was designed to let people create
20150915 06:56:04 <xranby_f22> she have done more math and drawings on this thing compared to a modern tablet designed for cosumption
20150915 06:58:32 <elect> cool
20150915 06:58:40 <elect> do you teach her coding?
20150915 06:58:49 <xranby_f22> elect: she like scratch
20150915 06:58:56 <elect> :)
20150915 06:59:30 <xranby_f22> however she got a bit upset when she asked for a mobile phone and i gave her a raspberry pi
20150915 06:59:41 <elect> lol
20150915 06:59:53 <elect> how old is she, if I may ask
20150915 07:00:03 <xranby_f22> although.. she enjoyed pretending that the pi was a mobile phone
20150915 07:00:17 <xranby_f22> the is in second grade
20150915 07:00:19 <elect> I saw some project about connecting a small lcd and a battery
20150915 07:00:21 <xranby_f22> she is in
20150915 07:00:38 <xranby_f22> yes, totally doable and i like to gradually introduce technology
20150915 07:00:42 <elect> and a little keyboard too of course
20150915 07:01:05 <xranby_f22> you start with the board and then you start talking about how this board can be upgraded
20150915 07:01:11 <xranby_f22> by attaching parts to it
20150915 07:01:53 <xranby_f22> this makes her aware what the different computer ports are used for
20150915 07:02:00 <elect> yep
20150915 07:02:19 <elect> I guess many of her friends have smartphone, dont they?
20150915 07:02:37 <xranby_f22> they usually have dumb phones given by their parents as a form of false securoty
20150915 07:02:56 <xranby_f22> the parents think that they can reach their kids using this phone
20150915 07:03:20 <elect> I can image
20150915 07:03:20 <xranby_f22> of course it do not work because the parents try to send sms and the kids have no clue how to open one nor how to read
20150915 07:03:34 <xranby_f22> it makes the situation hillarious
20150915 07:03:55 <elect> :D
20150915 07:04:43 <xranby_f22> endless debates, where they dropped the phone etc
20150915 07:05:07 <xranby_f22> thus i think i did the right thing and gave my daughter something usable
20150915 07:05:25 <xranby_f22> hence she got a SoC programmable device
20150915 07:05:42 <xranby_f22> that at least inspire imagination
20150915 07:06:23 <xranby_f22> + you can run scratch on it
20150915 07:39:31 <zubzub> xranby_f22: the pi now has an official touchscreen
20150915 07:40:17 <zubzub> I think I will teach my daughter how to program as soon as she can do some basic math and english
20150915 07:40:32 <zubzub> but I won't do it on a pi or whatever
20150915 07:40:39 <zubzub> but in a browser using javascript
20150915 07:40:51 <zubzub> because it gives you quick and nice feedback on what you've done
20150915 07:40:58 <zubzub> as it's very visual
20150915 07:41:07 <zubzub> and it has lots of nice effects
20150915 07:41:12 <zubzub> and you can show it off easily to your friends
20150915 07:42:57 <xranby_f22> zubzub: i would suggest you to try p5 js http://p5js.org/
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20150915 07:47:11 <xranby_f22> zubzub: p5 js with a browser editor http://p5js-sandbox.herokuapp.com/browse
20150915 07:47:17 <zubzub> perfect
20150915 07:47:23 <zubzub> exactly what I had in mind
20150915 07:47:32 <zubzub> thing is that she's currently only 17months old
20150915 07:47:39 <zubzub> so I'm first gonna wait a bit :p
20150915 07:47:51 <xranby_f22> and if you make something cool then you can deploy it using processing natively as well
20150915 07:48:15 <xranby_f22> the p5 js language is almost identical to processing (java + jogl)
20150915 07:48:43 <monsieur_max> wish i had the knowledge to make nice visuals on processing :)
20150915 07:49:54 <xranby_f22> zubzub: try scratch first :)
20150915 07:50:23 <xranby_f22> coduing using puzzle blocks do work from quite early stages
20150915 07:50:38 <zubzub> xranby_f22: I'm gonna try to make her stack duplo blocks properly first :p
20150915 07:50:55 <xranby_f22> good idea!
20150915 07:51:20 <xranby_f22> the first step of coding is to learn concatinate using duplo
20150915 07:51:33 <xranby_f22> concatenate
20150915 07:52:08 <monsieur_max> :) every dev i know played a lot with legos
20150915 07:52:34 <xranby_f22> take a large green field (memory) and let the kid place black and white blocks on the field
20150915 07:52:56 <xranby_f22> then you move your finger across the blocks and say beep for white blocks and boop for black blocks
20150915 07:53:25 <xranby_f22> and suddently you will see the kid rearrange the blocks in order to make you playback rythms
20150915 07:54:16 <xranby_f22> and tada,, the kid knows about how to prepare data to be processed by an interpreter
20150915 07:56:08 <xranby_f22> in best case it work as a stepping stone , in some cases you will be an interpreter saying beep and boop for the rest of your life.
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20150915 13:02:34 <xranby> Internationalized Resource Identifiers (IRIs)
20150915 13:02:41 <xranby> http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3987.txt
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20150915 17:11:07 <xranby_f22> http://jogamp.org/deployment/archive/master/gluegen_888-joal_614-jogl_1438-jocl_1083-signed/ <- new signed test build from 15 sept 2015
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20150915 17:58:58 <Eclesia> \o/
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20150915 18:14:21 <xranby_f22> Eclesia: welcome back
20150915 18:14:32 <Eclesia> xranby_f22: hi
20150915 18:14:38 <Eclesia> f22 ?
20150915 18:14:53 <xranby_f22> f22 = fedora 22
20150915 18:15:09 <Eclesia> your new play thing ?
20150915 18:15:38 <Eclesia> so any interesting stuff the last two weeks ?
20150915 18:15:59 <xranby_f22> http://jogamp.org/deployment/archive/master/gluegen_888-joal_614-jogl_1438-jocl_1083-signed/ <- new signed test build from 15 sept 2015
20150915 18:16:40 <xranby_f22> highly interesting, sgothel is hiding reworking locking mechanisms in jogl
20150915 18:17:07 <xranby_f22> not exactly hiding, patches apearing in his git in a rapid phase
20150915 18:19:07 <Eclesia> ^^
20150915 18:21:38 <Eclesia> I did ... nothing XD , not a single line of code !
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20150915 21:27:45 <sgothel> hi ho
20150915 21:29:05 <sgothel> @Xerxes: Bug 1217 .. things you could test .. sure, its not our bug, but we could tighten it a bit
20150915 22:20:37 <sgothel> bugzilla-5.0.1
20150916 00:07:19 <sgothel> mediawiki-1.25.2 and 'Bugzilla Reports' via git
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