#jogamp @ irc.freenode.net - 20160927 05:05:25 (UTC)
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20160927 06:18:52 <elect> cool, thanks rmk0
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20160927 07:27:41 <Eclesia> hi
20160927 08:25:43 <elect> btw rmk0, I noticed from the videos, that kotlin takes a while to compile
20160927 08:26:02 <elect> why that? More advanced features = more time to encode them in bytecode?
20160927 08:26:06 <monsieur_max> hello people :)
20160927 08:26:12 <elect> hi monsieur_max
20160927 08:29:23 <zubzub> elect: I assume a more complex ast, so more checks so longer compilation
20160927 08:29:32 <zubzub> probably also because it's still young
20160927 08:29:39 <elect> I guess so
20160927 08:29:45 <elect> no tuned optimizations
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20160927 08:41:01 <gouessej> Hi
20160927 08:43:05 <gouessej> I asked elect to rename his "organization" to avoid any confusion with the JogAmp community and any reputation parasitism. I reported his organization to Github staff. The details of the procedure are currently not public
20160927 08:47:41 <zubzub> both US & EU jogamp trademark shows nothing
20160927 08:48:06 <elect> modified
20160927 08:48:52 <elect> anyway, you surprise me day by day how disappointing and unfriendly you are turning
20160927 08:49:32 <elect> however, tell me if it satisfies you
20160927 08:49:38 <elect> java-opengl-labs
20160927 08:50:22 <monsieur_max> elect: there are a lot of similar letters :(
20160927 08:50:29 <zubzub> yeah
20160927 08:50:30 <zubzub> it has java
20160927 08:50:31 <gouessej> elect: Just avoid confusion. https://github.com/java-opengl-labs is ok
20160927 08:50:34 <zubzub> and opengl
20160927 08:50:40 <zubzub> clearly bad for jogamp
20160927 08:50:47 <zubzub> pls change
20160927 08:50:54 <zubzub> I also reported you at the principals office
20160927 08:52:02 <elect> Jeez, I am really glad I am not the only one to see these things this way
20160927 08:52:06 <elect> thanks guys
20160927 08:52:59 <gouessej> elect: Please don't show you as a victim. Only a few members of the community are often on this IRC channel.
20160927 08:53:20 <elect> I am just sad you are behaving like that
20160927 08:53:59 <elect> I thought we were kind of friends or mates since we were using/contributing (you much more off course) both jogamp
20160927 08:54:20 <elect> I just say I am really disappointed
20160927 08:54:59 <elect> even just the fact you use the word "parassitism" is kind of sad
20160927 08:55:08 <gouessej> elect: I just want to avoid confusion. You use your own third party libraries, we have different views, I respect yours as long as there is no confusion
20160927 08:55:21 <elect> it'd have been enough just to say, elect, could you please change the name?
20160927 08:55:43 <elect> instead sending me the wall of text email, threathing me about lawerys and other shits
20160927 08:55:48 <elect> seriously
20160927 08:55:51 <elect> you need to chill out
20160927 08:57:09 <zubzub> o_O
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20160927 09:37:41 * monsieur_max broadcast some chill out music ( with a convenient license )
20160927 09:38:25 <elect> italian?
20160927 09:40:17 <monsieur_max> i won't answer
20160927 09:40:48 <elect> !
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20160927 15:11:37 <Eclesia> Damned, I missed some funny time on the chan
20160927 15:24:39 <elect> like always
20160927 15:24:43 <elect> where are you when needed
20160927 15:26:13 <zubzub> be careful
20160927 15:26:16 <zubzub> they are watching
20160927 15:26:20 <zubzub> always watching
20160927 15:32:59 <elect> actually this would explain why I feel something behind the neck
20160927 15:51:02 <rmk0> ^(° - °)^
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20160927 16:05:53 <elect> however, lets talk about kotlin rmk0
20160927 16:06:11 <elect> you know, digging around I found out most of lwjgl is actually written in kotlin
20160927 16:06:35 <elect> but still no math lib
20160927 16:06:47 <elect> I'm thinking about giving it a try
20160927 16:07:37 <elect> I don't use vec and mat math everywhere
20160927 16:07:56 <rmk0> the lwjgl binding generator is written in kotlin
20160927 16:08:01 <elect> the idea to write in kotlin only those few parts is tempting
20160927 16:08:30 <elect> do you know why they made that choose?
20160927 16:08:51 <rmk0> compilerish things tend to require ADTs
20160927 16:09:08 <elect> ah, we come always there then
20160927 16:10:18 <elect> would it then make sense also for jogl to use kotlin?
20160927 16:11:25 <rmk0> well, you're really asking if it would be worth rewriting gluegen in kotlin
20160927 16:11:33 <rmk0> i'd say probably not, given that gluegen already exists
20160927 16:18:17 <elect> only if one starts from scracht then?
20160927 16:18:46 <elect> this appears to be also lwjgl3 case
20160927 16:20:08 <rmk0> if i was asked to write something like gluegen, i would probably use kotlin, yes
20160927 16:20:25 <rmk0> it's inevitably going to involve parsing and type checking. ASTs are easily represented as ADTs
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