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20140215 08:18:52 <sgothel> good morning .. openal-soft updated / Bug 927 regarding AudioSink fixed (at least here)
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20140215 13:58:37 <juank_prada> Hi guys, I noticed on the Jogamp forums there is a section for JInput. but i am not sure the real status of it. I mean, is it possible tu sue JInput with Jogl at this moment?
20140215 13:58:59 <juank_prada> from what I can see in the forums there is some sort of integration being done
20140215 15:38:11 <monsieur_max> juank_prada: on my game i use jinput with no trouble
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20140215 16:42:42 <juank_prada> monsieur_max, great
20140215 16:42:52 <juank_prada> tanks
20140215 16:42:55 <juank_prada> *thanks
20140215 16:52:27 <monsieur_max> juank_prada: you're welcome
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20140215 17:50:11 <Eclesia> hi
20140215 17:51:26 <sgothel> hi all
20140215 17:52:52 <Eclesia> anything new in the jogamp world ? :D
20140215 17:53:31 <sgothel> just tedious stuff .. :)
20140215 17:54:14 <sgothel> @Xerxes: Bug 927 validation (fixed ?)
20140215 17:57:17 <Eclesia> quick question, I have this message when I use glClear :
20140215 17:57:18 <Eclesia> http://pastebin.com/xVX4D2z7
20140215 17:57:34 <Eclesia> is this code obsolete ? gl.glClear(GL4.GL_COLOR_BUFFER_BIT | GL4.GL_DEPTH_BUFFER_BIT);
20140215 17:57:57 <sgothel> ofc not
20140215 17:58:19 <sgothel> the native DebugGL ctx message from GL driver
20140215 17:58:37 <sgothel> usually it's a state .. not glClear ..
20140215 17:58:48 <sgothel> i.e. a fixed function state or otherwise
20140215 17:58:58 <sgothel> (like GL_BLEND .. etc)
20140215 18:00:55 <Eclesia> I don't use much of them, glClearColor, glEnable/glDisable, glDepthFunc. I'm wondering what could be wrong ...
20140215 18:01:35 <sgothel> I would test w/ AMD driver .. usually they have a better state tracker incl debug ctx
20140215 18:01:45 <sgothel> note: nothing must be wrong
20140215 18:04:26 <Eclesia> looks like I'm not the only one : http://stackoverflow.com/questions/12004396/opengl-debug-context-performance-warning
20140215 18:05:46 * Eclesia will just ignore it
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20140215 22:50:42 <xranby-64> noticed that some versions of Fedora Linux got OpenGL ES 3 in Mesa disabled "due to patent uncertainty regarding floating point format" http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/mesa-dev/2013-March/036740.html someone know more about this #FUD ?
20140215 22:57:27 <sgothel> oh it;s documented on the mesa site AFAIK .. a very old thingy .. and SGI hasn't made a 'grant' AFAIK ..
20140215 22:59:34 <xranby-64> its a failure for the "royalty free spec" to include patented technology without grants
20140215 23:00:00 <sgothel> yeah .. and W3C walks that line now as well ..
20140215 23:06:15 <xranby-64> http://www.khronos.org/registry/gles/extensions/EXT/EXT_color_buffer_float.txt
20140215 23:06:33 <sgothel> can't find the 'one page' regarding patent issues ..
20140215 23:06:39 <sgothel> ok .. late dinner .. laters
20140215 23:06:59 <xranby-64> https://www.khronos.org/files/ip-disclosures/opengl/SGI%20IP%20Disclosure%20Mar05_clean.pdf
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20140216 01:30:36 <sgothel> yup .. thats the one .. thx :)
20140216 01:40:34 <xranby-64> http://cryptome.org/2014/02/nic-ssh-rootkit.htm
20140216 01:41:04 <sgothel> good ole cryptome ..
20140216 01:41:31 <sgothel> "an SSH server inside a NIC several years earlier" :)
20140216 01:42:30 <xranby-64> "The current version simply sends the appropriate packets to vulnerable cards and updates them. "
20140216 01:44:09 <sgothel> "Subject: Re: Snowden and Compilers" I remember a discussion about compilers opening doors .. hmm, forgot link - surely doable
20140216 01:44:40 <sgothel> fight fire w/ fire - so we should need this 'signature toolchain'
20140216 01:45:39 <sgothel> req #1: All files need to have a signature, which can be verified .. I guess there was something already like this .. hmm
20140216 01:52:41 <sgothel> like to test new JOAL + ALAudioSink on other devices ? ..
20140216 01:55:14 <xranby-64> openal soft got about 6 different backends.. thus some coverage should be possible by simply switching the openal-soft config on one machine
20140216 01:55:51 <sgothel> http://jogamp.org/git/?p=joal.git;a=commitdiff;h=69cafbdd79eadccec803b4fcd1789657cb7c6529
20140216 01:56:11 <sgothel> ALSA, OSS, PulseAudio, WaveFile, Null - or - OpenSLES_Android
20140216 01:56:59 <sgothel> haven't tested them all .. guess it's pulseaudio here
20140216 01:57:19 <sgothel> was more like .. Bug 927 solved ?
20140216 01:57:52 <sgothel> while playing w/ text rendering .. and tested things .. no crash so far
20140216 01:58:08 <sgothel> (linux debian8 .. pulse)
20140216 01:58:19 <sgothel> x64 ..
20140216 01:58:36 <xranby-64> hmm right i should try this "CrossFadePlayer" again https://github.com/dudewithasock/raspimusic/commit/1423e0c882d64b6cde914a41a9efe99cd602ef6a
20140216 01:58:49 <xranby-64> it did not work last time i checked
20140216 01:58:55 <sgothel> maybe you can merge it into joal's unit tests ?
20140216 02:00:15 <xranby-64> yes its a candidate for cleanup and inclusion for sure
20140216 02:00:38 <xranby-64> its the only test i have written for dual glmediaplayer use
20140216 02:01:08 <sgothel> ah .. so jogl unit test then .. (or cmd-line demo, i.e. manual)
20140216 02:01:37 <sgothel> looks like we have to add a few media files to the test machines :)
20140216 02:05:15 <xranby-64> i need to rebuild jogamp locally.. there is no chuck build ready to test with http://jogamp.org/deployment/archive/master/?C=M;O=D
20140216 02:05:29 <sgothel> yeah .. trying hard today :)
20140216 02:05:56 <sgothel> and diff nodes decide to fail / freeze each other run .. duh
20140216 02:06:43 <sgothel> the best is always: 'successful - network timed out'
20140216 02:07:40 <xranby-64> what is the git subdir woodoo we use for openal-soft?
20140216 02:07:50 <sgothel> scratch head ..
20140216 02:08:15 <xranby-64> do i need to pass some option to git for it to update openal-soft when i git pull joal ?
20140216 02:08:26 <sgothel> that should do .. but maybe not
20140216 02:08:39 <sgothel> openal-soft is 7297c3214a4c648aaee81a9877da15b88f798197
20140216 02:08:46 <sgothel> and I checked it in .. should work ..
20140216 02:10:15 * xranby-64 scratches head ... when i do git log on the joal/openal-soft dir .. i only see the joal changes
20140216 02:11:02 <sgothel> cd openal-soft
20140216 02:11:07 <sgothel> but joal should have
20140216 02:11:15 <sgothel> 8ff9b7e7c92db11e1c9726bda24cb403c792b4f7
20140216 02:11:21 <sgothel> Bump openal-soft to 7297c3214a4c648aaee81a9877da15b88f798197
20140216 02:11:34 <xranby-64> yup that is in
20140216 02:12:40 <sgothel> 'Recursively update submodules' ..
20140216 02:14:14 <sgothel> git submodule update
20140216 02:14:22 <sgothel> git pull --[no-]recurse-submodules[=yes|on-demand|no]
20140216 02:15:55 <sgothel> http://chrisjean.com/2009/04/20/git-submodules-adding-using-removing-and-updating/
20140216 02:16:00 <sgothel> https://www.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-submodule.html
20140216 02:16:48 <xranby-64> git clone --recurse-submodules git://jogamp.org/srv/scm/joal.git
20140216 02:17:07 <xranby-64> ok.. i now have the right sources
20140216 02:17:24 <xranby-64> @sven thank you!
20140216 02:17:40 <sgothel> np -- looks like my git is too old for that :)
20140216 02:18:04 <sgothel> need to add this to our JOAL README :)
20140216 02:23:53 <sgothel> added the note, will push after builds are done
20140216 02:24:25 <xranby-64> i bow
20140216 02:24:57 <sgothel> everybody should bow to the janitor :)
20140216 02:26:54 <sgothel> I have removed testing on linux-x86_32-amd, since the driver freezes .. :( - yes, the updated machine
20140216 02:27:31 <sgothel> w/ new GPU and driver, seems like too little love for 32bit on 64bit from amd .. oh well
20140216 02:28:00 <sgothel> but .. I guess soon we can happily use the open source drivers :)
20140216 02:38:45 <xranby-64> hmm i get errors in libav while testing
20140216 02:38:46 <xranby-64> [NULL @ 0x7f429808eb60] insufficient thread locking around avcodec_open/close()
20140216 02:39:17 <xranby-64> thus its not only openal-soft that needs fixes
20140216 02:39:28 <sgothel> that one .. which libav ?
20140216 02:40:04 <sgothel> i.e. this is no more existing in current libav .. never saw it here .. hmm
20140216 02:40:05 <xranby-64> libavcodec53:amd64 6:0.8.10-0ubuntu0.13.10.1
20140216 02:40:19 <sgothel> https://jogamp.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=927#c1
20140216 02:40:58 <sgothel> ixquick.com .. hmm
20140216 02:41:31 <sgothel> or .. will do ..
20140216 02:57:14 <xranby-64> sgothel: to clarify
20140216 02:57:23 <xranby-64> the following testcase work fine
20140216 02:57:25 <xranby-64> java -cp gluegen/build/gluegen-rt.jar:jogl/build/jar/jogl-all.jar:jogl/build/jar/jogl-test.jar:joal/build/jar/joal.jar com/jogamp/opengl/test/junit/jogl/demos/es2/av/MovieSimple -loop -windows 2 -urlN 0 http://download.blender.org/peach/bigbuckbunny_movies/big_buck_bunny_720p_surround.avi -urlN 1 http://video.webmfiles.org/elephants-dream.webm
20140216 02:57:46 <sgothel> nice .. crashed here before patch w/ latest openal-soft
20140216 02:57:57 <xranby-64> sound is heard from both movies etc..
20140216 02:58:15 <sgothel> you like the text I hope :)
20140216 02:58:18 <xranby-64> the only thing i have issues with is the cross fade test
20140216 02:58:25 <sgothel> oh
20140216 02:58:26 <xranby-64> the text is cute..
20140216 02:58:51 <xranby-64> https://jogamp.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=927#c0
20140216 02:58:57 <xranby-64> that is the cross face test
20140216 02:59:06 <xranby-64> fade
20140216 02:59:17 <sgothel> then pls put it in ..
20140216 02:59:29 <sgothel> me adding pthread locking ..
20140216 03:07:30 <xranby-64> running helgrind now ?
20140216 03:07:38 <sgothel> haha
20140216 03:08:02 <sgothel> I guess .. w/ java it's quite complicated
20140216 03:08:18 <xranby-64> it was a nice talk..
20140216 03:08:32 <sgothel> but locking in jogamp is quite well hand tuned
20140216 03:08:39 <sgothel> yes
20140216 03:08:40 <xranby-64> the slides are up... https://fosdem.org/2014/schedule/event/valgrind_helgrind/
20140216 03:09:13 <sgothel> visualization and tracking and analysis is always awesome
20140216 03:10:27 <xranby-64> good night.. eclipse refuse to start here.. guess its time to sleep
20140216 03:10:35 <sgothel> good night
20140216 03:10:49 <sgothel> nice chatiing .. w/ u
20140216 03:11:04 <xranby-64> a pleasure, as always
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