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20141010 06:33:04 <eclesia> good morning
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20141010 09:24:37 <sgothel> good morning
20141010 09:24:54 <sgothel> YouTube says "This video is unlisted. Be considerate and think twice before sharing."
20141010 09:25:11 <sgothel> So I thought thrice: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yp-Wh77wt1o
20141010 09:25:21 <sgothel> covered by http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-09/german-journalist-blows-whistle-how-cia-controls-media
20141010 09:31:00 <sgothel> I know, no real news here. But I like how he spells it out: [1] Germany still a colony of the US. [2] German secret service founded by US. [3] Journalists "bribed" and "asked" by secret service and 'atlantic orgs' to comply (Germany, Australie, New Zealand, .. etc)
20141010 09:36:18 <zubzub> not a colony, a protectorate
20141010 09:36:28 <zubzub> just like the entire eu
20141010 09:36:31 <sgothel> yeah
20141010 09:36:47 <zubzub> it's the modern day version of roman empire & greece
20141010 09:37:16 <sgothel> like TTIP (and the Canadian version) too important to be voted for or even allow the public to hear the negotiations
20141010 09:37:58 <sgothel> the continuation of the 'Holy Roman Empire' .. some say ..
20141010 09:38:47 <sgothel> what just disgusts me, why not being honest about it ? :)
20141010 09:48:03 <sgothel> Like, "We know there will be limited contagion regarding Ebola treatments around Europe importing infected patients to even unfit hospitals. But we like to take that risk for all the people - because we like to gain experience with the virus and maybe even like some other ideas .." .. *coff*
20141010 11:03:11 <eclesia> we should stop paying our taxes ...
20141010 11:05:59 <zubzub> can't we just outlaw ebola
20141010 11:06:05 <zubzub> that should fix it
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20141010 11:37:17 <xranby> i have a JNI question
20141010 11:37:39 <xranby> what is the difference of Java_jogamp_common_os_UnixDynamicLinkerImpl_dlerror__ (with a __ suffix) and Java_jogamp_common_os_UnixDynamicLinkerImpl_dlerror ?
20141010 11:38:09 <sgothel> is that a JNI question ?
20141010 11:38:38 <xranby> https://github.com/robovm/robovm/issues/535#issuecomment-58643741
20141010 11:38:39 <zubzub> that's a jni question :)
20141010 11:38:45 <sgothel> however, the java dynamic linker allows suffixes qualifying the arguments
20141010 11:38:59 <sgothel> (thought this might be in GlueGen .. a GlueGen question)
20141010 11:39:14 <xranby> sgothel: the issue is that robovm fails to resolve the function if the suffix is in place
20141010 11:39:15 <sgothel> dunno what '__' suffix qualifies for
20141010 11:39:31 <sgothel> one of the many issues then ..
20141010 11:39:44 <xranby> this is the only known issue at the moment
20141010 11:40:25 <sgothel> Have you talked w/ RoboVM maintainer (stakeholder) ? AFAIK he claimed it just works w/ JOGL to one of JogAmp customers.
20141010 11:40:30 <zubzub> http://docs.oracle.com/javase/7/docs/technotes/guides/jni/spec/design.html
20141010 11:40:32 <zubzub> look at
20141010 11:40:38 <zubzub> "Resolving Native Method Names"
20141010 11:41:14 <xranby> zubzub: awesome
20141010 11:41:16 <xranby> thank you
20141010 11:41:19 <xranby> for overloaded native methods, two underscores (“__”) followed by the mangled argument signature
20141010 11:41:20 <sgothel> @xerxes: If your patch does not render anything incompatible, it is ofc accepted. AFAIK, dropping a suffix for JNI methods is OK.
20141010 11:41:38 <sgothel> yup .. thx for the proper ref .. as I mentioned
20141010 11:42:49 <sgothel> so it has to be seen whether we use overloaded JNI stuff - not as I can think of right now. However .. we sure have more full qualified JNI methods.
20141010 11:44:43 <sgothel> @xerxes: I assume you have not tested suspend to sdcard or even ram in your RasPi setup?
20141010 11:44:58 <xranby> sgothel: its not supported on the pi
20141010 11:45:00 <sgothel> a performance test page would surely be nice
20141010 11:45:04 <sgothel> oh :(
20141010 11:45:06 <xranby> i have looked up resources
20141010 11:45:14 <xranby> the issue is to bring back the gpu
20141010 11:45:31 <xranby> it suspends... but no way to unsuspend
20141010 11:45:34 <sgothel> which will be supported .. one day w/ the open source driver ?
20141010 11:45:45 <zubzub> bring back the gpu, you mean X?
20141010 11:45:50 <xranby> i can only hope
20141010 11:46:06 <sgothel> if so - such perf. measurement on console would still be nice
20141010 11:46:08 <zubzub> or really the gpu driver?
20141010 11:46:16 <xranby> zubzub: the raspberry pi linux kernel is in a tight dance with teh gpu firmware
20141010 11:46:28 <zubzub> ok so it's the driver
20141010 11:46:32 <xranby> zubzub: its the GPU firmware that boots the linux kernel
20141010 11:46:47 <sgothel> IMHO reasonable, compared to using RoboVM for example (new VM tech, slow GC, ..)
20141010 11:47:13 <sgothel> I doubt that :)
20141010 11:48:34 <xranby> sgothel: the current working prototype is using jamvm + openjdk on the raspberry pi
20141010 11:49:30 <sgothel> so you are saying resume from suspend will not awake the GPU - but does it awake the rest of the SoC. I read that you claim no, right?
20141010 11:50:47 <sgothel> maybe its worth chatting about this issue w/ the new Broadcom employee Eric maintaining the FOSS driver ..
20141010 11:51:04 <sgothel> (jaja .. the obvious :)
20141010 11:52:28 <xranby> sgothel: i have to find a better way to contact eric, he do only respond to messages on his anholt livejournal blog
20141010 11:52:50 <sgothel> however, testing RoboVM is nice - sure. Will love to see your blog post so I can reproduce. Will assist ofc.
20141010 11:53:08 <sgothel> git commit email address ?
20141010 11:53:39 <sgothel> or .. just call him Broadcom ?
20141010 11:53:52 <xranby> i have tested email.. its like a black hole
20141010 11:53:58 <sgothel> *at Broadcom*
20141010 11:54:02 <xranby> grabbing the phone is a good idea
20141010 11:54:02 <sgothel> tsts
20141010 11:54:57 <sgothel> http://www.anholt.net/
20141010 11:55:03 <sgothel> You can email me at eric@anholt.net
20141010 11:55:08 <sgothel> doesn't work ?
20141010 11:55:26 <xranby> no reply
20141010 11:55:29 <sgothel> gpg sign your message ..
20141010 11:56:51 <sgothel> but phone call via company might help .. or simply sent email to mailinglist
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20141010 13:00:23 <gouessej> Hi
20141010 13:00:42 <gouessej> sgothel: When do you plan to release JOGL 2.2.4?
20141010 13:01:05 <gouessej> sgothel: Today? https://jogamp.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1094#c3
20141010 13:02:48 <sgothel> yes ..
20141010 13:04:04 <gouessej> sgothel: Thanks. I need our quirk
20141010 13:04:06 <sgothel> preparing 2.2.3 (just for the records) .. and 2.2.4 for wider audience today
20141010 13:04:18 <sgothel> hope it is the 2.2.X thingy :)
20141010 13:08:51 <gouessej> sgothel: Do you confirm that the quirk nopbufferwithaccum will be in JOGL 2.2.4?
20141010 13:09:07 <sgothel> yes sir
20141010 13:09:35 <sgothel> https://jogamp.org/wiki/index.php/SW_Tracking_Report_Objectives_for_the_release_2.2.4
20141010 13:13:26 <gouessej> sgothel: Sorry, there is no link to this roadmap on the homepage yet, I didn't see it
20141010 13:14:05 <sgothel> right .. one can go on next next .. etc .. hmm, will clean up the mess today
20141010 13:22:12 <gouessej> sgothel: This bug report should be closed: https://jogamp.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=648
20141010 13:24:20 <sgothel> thx
20141010 13:24:53 <sgothel> right .. also works for me .. I tested w/ 2 monitors lately testing HiDPI
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20141010 14:10:23 <sgothel> https://jogamp.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page <- has all roadmaps now
20141010 14:25:42 <sgothel> @Mark: 2.2.4 maven release coming up later today .. :)
20141010 14:26:01 <sgothel> (I mean .. if you are doing it .. hehe)
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20141010 15:59:27 <rmk0> sgothel: yep
20141010 15:59:30 <rmk0> let me know when
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20141010 16:11:45 <sgothel> 2.2.4 is deployed (our maven, and our deployment ..)
20141010 16:11:51 <sgothel> @Mark: ready
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20141010 16:28:46 <sgothel> https://jogamp.org/wiki/index.php/Release_2.2.4
20141010 16:29:00 <sgothel> web page updated .. etc
20141010 16:45:09 <sgothel> http://forum.jogamp.org/2-2-4-Release-td4033315.html
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20141010 18:39:19 <rmk0> looks like 2.2.4 is synced
20141010 18:39:55 <rmk0> ...
20141010 18:40:01 <rmk0> what happened to 2.2.2 and 2.2.3?
20141010 18:40:24 <rmk0> 2.2.1 went up on maven central on 2014-09-08
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20141010 20:58:13 <sgothel> thank you (back from my loong nap)
20141010 20:59:03 <sgothel> Julien: "and keep cool, we're here to help" <- now _he_ made my day, he - the most emotional of us - I love it :)
20141010 20:59:51 <sgothel> [Hi Julien, all good - just thought this is cute/funny. :)
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20141010 23:41:10 <sgothel> Bug 1068: Mesa 10.2.6 supports context w/o default drawable - hurray (X11) ; Proprietary Nvidia-Linux does not .. (glXMakeCurrent fails here)
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