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20150917 06:35:20 <elect> hi
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20150917 09:39:05 <Eclesia> good morning
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20150917 13:55:22 <elect> http://www.tagesspiegel.de/politik/fluechtlinge-der-handel-mit-syrischen-paessen-blueht/12290592.html
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20150917 17:43:20 <Eclesia1> hmm... do you think painting walls using squashed mosquitos filled with the artist blood can be considered as 'Modern Art' ?
20150917 18:23:00 <Eclesia1> Marvelous : Elliptic Curve Cryptography in Java and public domain http://bmsi.com/java/#EC . the maths could be used for geometries too
20150917 19:05:43 <sgothel> :)
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20150917 20:01:42 <Eclesia1> and a small diff engine : http://www.codeproject.com/Articles/6943/A-Generic-Reusable-Diff-Algorithm-in-C-II (not perfect but that's somewhere to start)
20150917 20:02:07 <Eclesia1> that's a good day :) lots of work done and new stuff to play with
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20150917 20:18:15 <elect> absolutely Eclesia1
20150917 20:31:57 <Eclesia1> elect: hi, you made some cool things ?
20150917 20:32:09 <elect> trying
20150917 20:32:35 <elect> at the moment I am testing dx10 textures
20150917 20:33:02 <elect> next is ktx support
20150917 20:33:12 <elect> and then maybe also png and so on
20150917 20:33:22 <elect> since the Texture object is completely new
20150917 20:33:28 <elect> and then jAssimp
20150917 20:34:06 <elect> I dont know what to do for jBullet
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20150917 20:36:10 <xranby_rpi> regresson on raspberry pi deadlock using GLWindow ctrl+c not working
20150917 20:37:45 <xranby_rpi> when using gluegen_888-joal_614-jogl_1438-jocl_1083-signed/15-Sep-2015 17:15
20150917 20:42:32 <sgothel> you mean: deadlock w/ GLWindow on raspi when trying to end app via ctrl-c ?
20150917 20:42:58 <xranby_rpi> actually it looks like the gpu driver is stuck
20150917 20:43:03 <xranby_rpi> ... let me reboot and retest
20150917 20:43:21 <xranby_rpi> all opengl es applications are stuck atm
20150917 20:43:35 <xranby_rpi> including the /opt/vc/src test applications
20150917 20:44:07 <xranby_rpi> i am using a pi with the new pi screen + a sense hat attached
20150917 20:44:16 <xranby_rpi> thus it can be an incompatible mix of hardware
20150917 20:44:27 <xranby_rpi> it is a screen using the DSI connector
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20150917 20:47:50 <Eclesia1> elect: so I'll have to write ktx first :)
20150917 20:48:29 <elect> you could help me, so we dont do twice the same thing
20150917 20:49:57 <Eclesia1> the format isn't hard, no compression, no obfuscation, very close to raw image. it should be done in ~2hours I think.
20150917 20:50:42 <elect> i'm doing a port of gli
20150917 20:50:52 <Eclesia1> gli ?
20150917 20:51:03 <elect> http://gli.g-truc.net/0.7.0/index.html
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20150917 20:51:44 <sgothel> 'elect: since the Texture object is completely new' <- so you don't enhance JOGL's Texture* framework to support named formats? i.e. you changed that plan?
20150917 20:51:57 <elect> I plan to modify it
20150917 20:52:12 <xranby_rpi> false alarm .. i need to investigate with the raspberry pi people all their example code refuse to work on this machine
20150917 20:52:24 <elect> the problem is that there is a lot of stuff
20150917 20:52:42 <xranby_rpi> maybe i got a broken one delivered today
20150917 20:52:43 <elect> and almost all of it was written in 2010
20150917 20:53:03 <sgothel> @elect: so when you have a proposal (read: code), we can talk about it - sure
20150917 20:53:10 <elect> I started trying to adapt the code to support dx10
20150917 20:53:15 <sgothel> however: we don't discriminate age :)
20150917 20:53:22 <elect> I spent days on that
20150917 20:53:32 <sgothel> good
20150917 20:53:42 <elect> at the end I ended up writing something from scratch
20150917 20:53:53 <sgothel> hmm
20150917 20:53:57 <elect> also because I dont have experience with textures
20150917 20:54:10 <elect> so I dont know which are the most common cases nowaday
20150917 20:54:11 <elect> s
20150917 20:54:27 <elect> that's why I took gli as inspiration
20150917 20:54:29 <sgothel> that ofc is not a good reason, but - well, it allows you to learn the skills
20150917 20:54:38 <sgothel> so later on .. we may merge things and enhance
20150917 20:55:05 <sgothel> also: if code has aged, it is a good thing, i.e. it proves its maturity
20150917 20:55:23 <elect> at the time the current texture class of jogl was written
20150917 20:55:27 <sgothel> (if being used and satisfactory)
20150917 20:55:47 <sgothel> all depend on the specs/requirements ofc
20150917 20:55:54 <elect> many things didnt exist or werent standard
20150917 20:56:11 <sgothel> we will see to that when discussing your code
20150917 20:56:15 <elect> ok
20150917 20:56:24 <sgothel> i.e. your new requirements to the Texture class etc ..
20150917 20:56:41 <sgothel> hence would be good to outline that in a little README.txt ..
20150917 20:56:51 <sgothel> right next to your new code ofc
20150917 20:57:05 <elect> today basically you should deal with texture in 3d, layers, faces and levels
20150917 20:57:41 <elect> with those parameters you handle basically all the possibilities
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20150917 20:58:10 <Eclesia1> elect: +dimension +bands
20150917 20:58:35 <Eclesia1> elect: +InterpretationModels (scientific images : netcdf/grib)
20150917 20:58:42 <Eclesia1> +Metadatas
20150917 20:58:52 <elect> actually the class is very tiny
20150917 20:59:00 <elect> and supports a lot of formats
20150917 20:59:34 <elect> https://github.com/elect86/jgli/blob/master/Jgli/src/jgli/Format.java
20150917 20:59:39 <sgothel> so we have to see how things may fit into Texture and TextureData (they have some level/[dimension,type] attribute .. not sufficiently yet)
20150917 20:59:51 <sgothel> but let us discuss this when you have working code, please
20150917 21:00:46 <elect> the cool thing is that you can handle with a single structure all the texture types
20150917 21:00:49 <sgothel> me cont. fixing regressions .. duh :)
20150917 21:00:54 <elect> from a 1DArray, to a CubeArray
20150917 21:01:17 <elect> you can query even the dimension based on those 3 parameters
20150917 21:01:38 <sgothel> sounds good elect .. lets go knee deep when you have it, after 2.3.2 .. then we have the window to change API!
20150917 21:02:09 <sgothel> I mean: 'sounds great' ofc :)
20150917 21:02:14 <elect> :p
20150917 21:02:23 <sgothel> 'good' the little brother of shit :)
20150917 21:02:28 <elect> g-truc seems to have a lot of experience with gl
20150917 21:02:42 <sgothel> I would assume so .. :)
20150917 21:02:55 <elect> and actually gli is the only one supporting dx10 and ktx
20150917 21:04:40 <elect> all of these textures work https://github.com/elect86/jgli/blob/master/Jgli/src/test/Main.java#L110-L172
20150917 21:04:51 <elect> unless where differently specified
20150917 21:05:57 <sgothel> great elect, I will review after 2.3.2 - then discuss .. 2.3.2 is already a little bit late :)
20150917 21:06:20 <sgothel> btw .. if anybody can help w/ Bug 1219 ..
20150917 21:06:21 <elect> anyway, I planned to discuss as soon as I reach a stable point
20150917 21:06:40 <elect> I have to finish testing and fine the code
20150917 21:06:51 <sgothel> Bug 1219 seems to become a nightmare .. i.e. Windows 7 - 10 .. randomly not able to execute our test binary ..
20150917 21:06:51 <elect> I want to port also his tests
20150917 21:07:08 <elect> I'll take a look at it tomorrow
20150917 21:07:25 <elect> good nice guys
20150917 21:07:27 <elect> cya
20150917 21:08:57 <sgothel> good night!
20150917 21:09:09 <sgothel> https://jogamp.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1219#c17
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20150917 21:10:33 <sgothel> we need a new bug class in bugzilla, NIGHTMARE :)
20150917 21:11:11 <sgothel> 'sporadic issue only being reproduced by one user'
20150917 21:11:46 <sgothel> so .. anybody know a way to determine whether a folder can server 'executable files' and 'loadable dlls' ?
20150917 21:11:49 <sgothel> on windows
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20150917 21:12:20 <sgothel> currently, we attempt to execute a most small PE file - some 2xx bytes of size
20150917 21:12:41 <sgothel> issue: there are different ways to hinder 'execution'
20150917 21:12:48 <sgothel> [1] some hidden NTFS flags
20150917 21:13:06 <sgothel> [2] some security Software Restriction Policies
20150917 21:13:19 <sgothel> also see https://jogamp.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1015#c2
20150917 21:13:55 <sgothel> on all 'normal' systems, we simply attempt to execute a shell script - done
20150917 21:14:03 <sgothel> but on windows .. its different, sadly
20150917 21:38:03 <Eclesia1> good night ++
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20150917 23:03:28 <xranby_rpi> sgothel: https://jogamp.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1219#c20
20150917 23:05:37 <xranby_rpi> the users team has been using jogl for 12 years thus they have jogl 1.1.1 installed into their jre
20150917 23:06:19 <xranby_rpi> that is my thesis
20150917 23:06:32 <xranby_rpi> and their custom loader makes it break
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